Fruit n' Vegetables

Tomatos are considered fruit. This I understand.
Are cucumbers considered fruit? Why not? What makes them different from Tomatos (aside from color, shape, and taste) that would make them a vegetable. Why do they belong with 'tatos and yams and carrots, but not with tomatos, and why those not with apples and oranges?

it is a fruit.

a berry, i believe.

Technically speaking, anything that carries the seed is a fruit. Other parts of the plant are vegetables. By that definition, cucumbers are fruit. So are pumpkins. Still, I think of anything not sweet as a vegetable. No, that’s not right, because lemons and limes are fruit. I guess it’s just that in general texture and taste, cucumbers resemble celery, aspargus, and broccoli more than apples and oranges.

Speaking of misleading food names, turn down any offers for sweetbread. Take my word for it on this one.

I’ve heard that strawberry is a fruit.
Always thought it was a berry.
Confusen…

berries are fruits.

but a strawberry is not a berry. : )

A banan is not just a fruit,
it’s also a berry,
but if a berry is a fruit,
how can it be a berry also???

bananas are berries.
berries are fruits.
bananas are fruits.

tada.

Also stem and root plants like potatoes and carrots and brussles sprouts and cinnamon. But not mushrooms.

(mushrooms are fuguses and not plants at all)

i am really looking forward to the evidence that supports this.

The “banana’s a berry” thing is new to me. Anyone have the definition of a berry?

I know there are technical definitions but here is how I’ve always split them in my mind:

If it grows on a tree (or something big enough to make me think it is a tree) and is not a nut, it is a fruit.

If it grows on anything less than a tree it is a vegetable.

Thus:
tomatoes are vegetables (in my mind)
apples are fruit
strawberries are vegetables
figs are fruit
bananas are fruit

Avacadoes and olives are problems as I think of them as vegetables even though they grow on trees.

To which I say: If a square is a rectangle how can it be a square also???

Fruits are plant parts that contain seeds (male and female contribution) and the ovary wall from the female plant. Fruits can be simple (one seed), aggregate (more than one seed, but coming from one flower with many ovaries), or multiple (more than one flower). Simple fruits are peaches (also called drupes or stone fruit) or apples (called pomes) while aggregate fruits like strawberries can be achenes (the seed, with the ovary wall sits on a non-ovarian, but yummy, tissue). Grapes and tomatoes are berries as are bananas, but bananas can be parthenocarpic, which means they don’t need seeds to develop…

Now I have a headache and remember why I didn’t go into botany. For more on fruit types click here.

And here’s the definition of a berry: * - a fleshy, indehiscent fruit with more-or-less homogeneous texture throughout, derived from a single, superior ovary. One- to many-seeded. Term often misused. Example - grape. An epigynous berry is same derived from an inferior ovary (like blueberry).* From this glossary. So, a grape is a berry, but a strawberry is an achene. Oh, and a watermelon is a pepo.

If I’ve used it in a dessert, it’s a fruit.

**cucumber:**1a trailing annual vine of the gourd family; grown for its edible fruit 2the long fruit, with a green rind and firm, white flesh, gathered before fully mature and used in salads or preserved as pickles

This definition states that a cucumebr is a gourd, and, therefore, a fruit. Does this answer your question now?

Good definition, but what about watermelons, and grapes? Would you call those vegetables? I think we have to keep searching.

I use the classic defition:

If it tastes better with chocolate than garlic, it’s a fruit.
If it tastes better with garlic than chocolate, it’s a vegetable.

If it tastes equally good with garlic and chocolate, add some chiles and call it mole.