FU Barry Bonds

So now this crybaby blames the media for all his woes.

Try this on for size, asshole:

You treated the media like dirt - expect to tooled with by them.

You took steroids knowingly, we all know it, and now your mistress is ratting you out - bravo for her.

Your 40 yr old knees are feeling the effects of your cheating - and your season is in doubt - wahoo! I hope you never swing a bat again you piece of trash.

I want the Babe to hang over you and haunt you to your grave. You are not fit to be mentioned in the same breath as Hank Aaron and the Babe.

Thanks to info from your mistress, the IRS is going to crawl all over your ass for that undeclared income from all those people stupid enough to pay for your worthless autograph.

You’re going do some time, jerk!

Karma’s a bitch!

I have a hard time getting mad at anyone for not liking the media, especially today. I remember when I was growing up, Eddie Murray had a lousy reputation among journalists, but he was as nice as could be to a 9 year old Orioles fan when I met him.

And regardless of any steroid, HGH, or other performance enhancers, Barry Bonds is an amazing player. I love watching him hit, and I’ll miss it.

I pitted him because he was a great player but wasn’t satisfied.

Also I 'm pretty sure I heard him jonesing over having to beat Babe Ruth because he was white. He wasn’t as concerned about beating Aaron, just the Babe.

F’ him.

I hope his elbows go next.

Agreed, and from about the same age! Murray was great to people, just not to people who asked him the same inane questions night after night expecting a different answer. I winced when he came to New York – I knew how that movie was going to end. He deserved much, much better.

Out for the season my ass, he’s out because he’s kicking those 'roids. Watch him drop 30 pounds with the excuse that he wasn’t able to maintian conditioning with his fucked up knee.

Suck it Barry!

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But think how Barry must feel. On the cusp of becoming the undisputed greatest home run hitter of all time, waiting to soak in the adulation of millions as he bestrides the sports world on a triumphal march to the Hall of Fame - only to be brought down by a pack of sportswriter jackals who are trying to destroy him and make his children cry.
What a sad story.
He’ll be back though. After all, there is no “I” in retirement.
Well, OK, so there is. But not as many as in “whining, self-aggrandizing, deceitful idiot”.

I wonder if there are any people who want both to free Mumia **and **keep Bonds out of the Hall.
No one has been able to establish a consistent and willfully violative pattern of action on his part.
Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m no flag-waver for Barry Bonds. But make sure the cross on which you’re going to crucify him is structurally sound, because if it comes crashing down, he’ll look better than Lenny Bruce at the end of the day.
Quit pushing the man. He’ll pull his own McGwire and stammer his way out of the Hall in due time, under his own steam, at his own pace.
In the meantime, watch him play and enjoy the show, both on-field and off.

Phew! The games were beginning to command some attention for a minute there.

Thanks, Barry, for shining that spotlight back on yourself, where it belongs.

This is simply foolish. McGwire and Bonds will BOTH be in the Hall of Fame within the next 10 years. I’ll bet you anything you care to lose on that.

Not only that, but they’ll both make it on the first ballot, and deservedly so.

If McGwire actually did use steroids at the time suspected, I don’t know if he deserves it. He was an extremely one-dimensional player, only a bit better than Kingman. Hell, if you take out the late monster home run seasons, Canseco had a better career than McGwire.

Bonds, on the other hand, had a Hall of Fame niche already prepared before steroids.

Thirded - though a decade ahead of y’all.

I hope Bonds really does retire. I got in a couple minor squabbles over this with some drama queens over in the Giants fan community on LiveJournal today, but I’d rather root for a mediocre team (I’ve been a Giants fan my entire life, it’s not like it would be a new experience) than a decent team built around a cheater.

Just go away, Barry. I don’t give a fuck how many home runs you can hit while taking steroids. You’ve made me ashamed and embarrassed to wear the orange and black and for that I can’t forgive you. I don’t even know how I’m going to root for my team with you on it.

Saying Mark McGwire was only a bit better than Dave Kingman is like saying Rod Carew was only a bit better than Damaso Garcia.

McGwire was one dimensional in the sense that he didn’t hit for a high batting average, but even pre-roids he was a better player than Kingman; McGwire’s ROOKIE season was better than any season Dave Kingman ever had. McGwire drew a lot of walks, had a batting average 27 points higher, and was a competent defensive player, whereas Kingman was a defensive player of legendary ineptitude; as one announcer put it, “The ball fell among Dave Kingman.” Pre-Cardinals, McGwire in his worst season had an on base percentage 27 points higher than Kong’s career total.

It’s also true that Canseco had a better career than McGwire if you take out McGwire’s best big-homer seasons. Well, uh, big deal; Canseco is a better than a lot of Hall of Famers if you just slice out their four best seasons. That just stands to reason.

I think he’s knees are feeling the effects of 40 years. God knows mine are.

I don’t like Bonds, but that’s probably because he plays for the damn Giants. (I hate those guys!!!) BUt he is one the games best hitters EVER. Nobody has eyes and hands like him.

But his relationship with the media? I could give a shit. I wouldn’t care if he spit on them. Some of those people deserve to be spat upon for asking such stupid questions…the SAME questions that have been asked by put near every other brain-dead sports reporter. If he never gave interviews to reporters, I would be OK with that. That said…

His press conference was the most pathetic thing I have ever seen. “You guys have been trying to hurt me, and you finally did.” Pathetic.

Up until this recent unpleasantness I thought Canseco deserved to be in the Hall. Hell, based on statistics he still does. But unlike Curt Flood, another player who has gotten a raw deal, Canseco tried to destroy the game for money and publicity. In that respect he’s even worse than Jim Bouton, who was at least honest about stuff, maybe even a little too honest. Curt Schilling was right: Canseco’s a dirtbag.

My first thought to the story, as well. I couldn’t stand the guy long before the first mention of steroids was brought up.

He’s the only guy year in and year out that even comes close to giving Selig a run for my vote of biggest detriment to MLB.

And to those in the fantasy league, no, I won’t take him even if available in the later rounds.

If you take out the steroid enhanced years, do McGwire and Bonds deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? McGwire no; Bonds yes. Except for his home runs, Mac was not an exceptional player, and the view of the importance of his home runs is altered by the massive output of his steroid enhanced years. And I have of course fucked up by comparing his career to Canseco, also steroid enhanced.

This I can’t argue with - I agree - though I don’t believe his stats get him into the Hall.

I disagree with all of this.

First off, I believe both will make the HOF, and deservedly so. But they won’t, and shouldn’t, make the first ballot. They have tainted themselves, and they have demons within the game of baseball to reconcile with. I think there are enough writers who will deem that smudge to be dirty enough to not name them the first year. Plus, if Maris isn’t in the HOF why should Big Mac get a first ballot entry?

And I have to say I’m actually disappointed that Bonds is hanging it up this season. I have a dream in which I’m the lucky soul who catches Bonds’ 756th Homerun, am interviewed after the game and pictures are taken of me shaking hands with Bonds, at which point I pull out a ball-point pen and write “CHEATER” right on the sweet spot of the ball.

You gotta love coincidences.

It is very convenient that he is unable to play.

Does everyone realize that coming off steroids is really hard? He is under such scrutiny that I think it finally is to the point that he has no choice. He can’t get the juice.

This is behavior that stinks of the ‘down’ you get after coming off steroids. He is exhausted…tired…etc.

He is completely down after coming off the juice.

Barry: Buh-bye.

See, here’s the thing, you guys:

I dislike Barry Bonds immensely, for reasons I’ll go into now.

I could also care less about his relationship with the media. That’s not what puts asses in seats at Candlestick*. His being one of the best players in the history of the game is what brings in the fans.

Barry says a lot of things that would be best served if he’d never opened his mouth at all. Things like blaming White America for his woes, blaming the media, blaming everybody but the big-headed gentleman he sees in the mirror when he shaves. My mother used to say, “If you have a lot of doomed relationships, and you go looking for a common factor in the patterns, it usually leads you back to your own doorstep.” Barry will never, however, admit – to others OR himself – that he is probably the one most responsible for all his problems.

But you really want to know why I dislike Barry so much? Why I show up in all the Pit threads and all the baseball conversations, just to tell everybody what a jerk he really is?

Because he’s arguably the best player in the game – and I have seen FIRST-HAND how he treats the fans. The people that indirectly allow him to make million-dollar paychecks.

And I’m here to tell you he treats them like all like staff. Low-level employees that he can hardly deign to look in the eye, much less speak to.

Now this is the ambassador of the sport. The go-to guy. The guy that inspires kids to want to take up baseball, to hit like Barry, to walk and talk and act like Barry.

And Barry won’t even look at most of his fans. I encourage you to ask Barry for an autograph sometime. Unless you’ve got $50 in your hand, and you’re waving it in front of his nose, he’ll refuse. He might even laugh, like I saw happen to a kid. A kid.

He’s obviously under the impression that all the hardships he’s endured make it okay to treat people like that. I’m not saying he should stand in one spot for two hours signing autographs after a game, but come on. He ignores the people that love him because they’re unsightly to him.

He’s a blight on the sport. In fact, I’ll go you one better – he’s the worst thing to happen to baseball. Talk all you want about steroids and juicing, but God DAMN, the American people will forgive you many things.

Many things, but not being an arrogant prick to the folks that support you.

Here’s hoping that Albert Pujols stays in the game long enough to shatter Barry’s record. Nobody with Barry’s attitude deserves the most prestigious record in the bigs. What Barry deserves is a long time to think about what he’s done and how he’s conducted himself on and off the field, following a sudden precipitous fall from grace.

Oh…you mean he’s doing that now?

Pity.

It’s always going to be Candlestick to me.