Fuck courtesy, follow the rules of the road

One time I picked up this guy, said he needed a ride to the airport in Minnesota. He said he always followed the rules of the road. As well he should: if you don’t follow the rules of the road, you can get some bad press as a Senator!

I’m guessing Ft. Bragg NC. It’s a military base.

Not necessarily.

Well holy crap, I didn’t even know there was a Fort Bragg, CA.

SSG Schwartz

I didn’t say there was not a Ft. Bragg CA, and I didn’t say he was necessarily in Ft. Bragg NC. Aside from that, you’re spot on.

Wouldn’t that be “rules of the commode?

I agree. Someone said it well once on the Dope, I think it was Miller. He’s all witty like that.

When driving, don’t be polite, be predictable.

There was a great scene in an old Laurel and Hardy movie, end of the movie, they were very very rich, and drove along in their car, followed by a dozen other cars they owned, driven by their chauffeurs. When someone in another car did something rude or stupid, they just rammed into him, then got out of their car, brushed themselves off, and got into their next car in line and drove off.

One of my fantasies.

Just this morning, I was almost hit by a woman who sailed right through a stop-sign (four-way stop, should have been my turn.) It happened that I followed her, and she sailed right through the stop sign at the next block, too. She probably had one of those free-passes for stop signs.

Holy crap! You guys aren’t kidding…
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Wasn’t me. I may be a witty Doper, but I’m a shitty driver.

And I didn’t know there was a Ft. Bragg, NC. Nor did I know that Ft. Bragg, CA, is not an active military installation. :smack:

My point remains, however; NC law is the same as CA law in this instance:

And, UncleRojelio, I’m relying on THIS part of the OP:

This makes no sense if the dumbass in question is approaching a flashing yellow light.

C’est moi.
And yes, I know I owe you a book report. Apologies for the delay.

It’s becoming a variant on Mornington Crescent, this, isn’t it? Every time the Merkins complain about intersections, we talk about ours instead :smiley:

That shit drives me nuts.

Don’t do what’s nice, do what’s expected. Easier for everyone.

Let me get this straight, based upon your interpretation of the traffic laws of North Carolina, if I approach an intersection with a flashing red light and I intend to turn left but cannot due to traffic traveling north, a car that approaches the intersection on the opposite side and wants to turn right, southbound, and has no traffic to impede him, must wait for me to complete my left turn before he can enter the intersection. :confused:

SSG Schwartz

Are you sure that was Laurel and Hardy? I remember that scene being in If I Had A Million, with W. C. Fields being the man who hated road hogs.

I’m not a driver, but I can sympathize with the sentiment. I also liked the segment with resident of an old folks’ home who bought the place and forced all the staff to do nothing but sit in rockers and rock all day, which is all the “inmates” had been allowed to do.

SSG Schwartz, I read your OP without looking at the poster or location, and was about to reply with something witty like:

“Sounds like you’re in North Carolina.”

:smack:

No. Since you are already yielding to cross traffic, and he has no cross traffic, he should already have entered the intersection by the time you have a clear path. If he hasn’t, he IS a dumbass. However, that’s not exactly the situation I read in your OP. If you arrive first at the intersection, and you have a clear path, you go first; there is nothing in the Code to suggest otherwise. Common sense might dictate that there be some order of precedence for those arriving at the same time, but I don’t see that in the NC Code either.

I agree.
Only it isn’t courtesy to wave someone on when it’s really your turn to go.
It’s inattention. Those people who wave others on are never being courteous, they are just waking up to the fact that someone else is on the road and they haven’t kept track of who’s turn it was.
To prove this, check every time somebody waves you on, or waves a pedestrian on. All the time (100% by my count over several years) they are waving one person right into the path of another. All because they were too inattentive and lost their sense of place. The poor pedestrian will often see the oncoming car in the other lane and simply wait, making the waver confused and upset. But better that then when they believe the waver and have a near miss!

I’m with the OP on this one. Here in the South, too many people try to be courteous and wave me on a left turn that I am supposed to yield. Following people’s wave-ins causes accidents.

And I think the NC code, as quoted, was speaking of flashing lights that flash the same color in all four directions. Specifically, the flashing yellow language seems to be the standard “you can’t hit someone who’s in your way just because you have the light.” kind of language. But when, say, north-south have a yellow and east-west have a red, then north south should proceed through as if they had no signal at all, only hampered by the rule of not plowing into someone if you can avoid them and being cautious that there is a cross road…