Fuck the assholes who named Seasonal Affective Disorder "S.A.D."

Every fall, I start to feel miserable and don’t feel better until the spring. I get depressed, exhausted, antisocial, grumpy, and my life generally turns to garbage. Someone somewhere finally officially recognized this phenomenon a few years ago as something legitimate that happens to many people and named it Seasonal Affective Disorder, or “S.A.D.”

“Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Are you feeling a little SAD? Oopsie-whoopsie!”

You know what? FUCK YOU GUYS. This is a serious problem that makes a bunch of people feel really fucking horrible for months on end every year, and you name it SAD? Could you be any more condescending and insulting? Do you ever wonder why there are so many suicides this time of year? SAD!? Are you fucking kidding me?

I hope I can discover a new, particularly deadly form of cancer so that I can name it “O.U.C.H.I.E.”

Yeah, they could have called it Seasonal Mood Disorder or something. But it’s much more fun if it makes a cute acronym. :rolleyes:

I also am prone to this. According to my mom, weather and season changes affected my mood even as a baby. Makes me glad I don’t live in Nunavut or I’d probably really be a mess.

I’m not sure why it’s not just called “Seasonal Depression” - that’s what it is.

Sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays!

Depression would be an extreme manifestation of SAD. SAD covers a spectrum of undesirable changes in affect. A person may suffer from SAD to the point where treatment is desireable without meeting the criteria for a diagnosis for depression.

I think it’s funny. I’d rather be “sad” than afflicted with Seasonal Affective Disorder. That’s just sad. Having S.A.D that is.

I’ve never thought of it that way. I just usually call it ‘seasonal depression’ or ‘seasonal affective disorder’ all out.

Won’t somebody also please spare a thought for the wonderful people who named their pressure group “Scotland Against Drugs”?

Seriously, commiserations on your seasonal bumming out. I get it too but not as bad as I used to.

Seasonal Affective Disorder?

What’s that?



But people with Seasonal Affective Disorder DO get sad? I think Sad is both accurate AND precise. I’m sorry if you think the word SAD isn’t emphatic enough to describe your depression, but depression is just deep sadness.


The word “affect” has a specific meaning in psychology. While some people use the name “manic depression”, the proper name is “bipolar affective disorder”. The DSM lists the symptoms of “flat affect” for several disorders. Last time I checked “mood” was not a recognized term in the field of psychology.

Many terms in psychology and pychiatry are turned into initialisms. Why say attention deficit hyperactivy disorder and obsessive compulsive disorder when you can just say ADHD and OCD?

Except that’s not what it is. SAD is a cluster disorder, with a variety of symptoms, most of which are not depression.

I have SAD and experience no depression. I just can’t drag my ass out of bed to save my life (even if the place was on fire), don’t think as clearly, etc, etc. I don’t get depressed at all.

Wouldn’t it be a case of the Octobers?

I think you’re pitting, specifically, some doctors here at Strong Hospital.

My father likes to say it’s not exactly surprising that S.A.D. was first described by health professionals in Rochester, NY.

No, depression is not just deep sadness. Depression (or, more properly, Major Depressive Disorder) is a pathological condition in which one of the symptoms is sad mood, but it is not “just” sadness, deep or otherwise. To be diagnosed with MDD, the person has to have sad mood or lack of enjoyment/interest in usual activities for at least two weeks. They must also have 5 of the following: appetite or weight change, insomnia or hypersomnia, fatigue, thoughts of death or suicide, persistent feelings of disproportionate guilt, worthlessness, hopelessness, or low self-esteem, psychomotor agitation or retardation, and difficulty concentrating or making decisions.

Then why does every doctor I’ve transcribed a psychiatric note for refer to the patient’s mood and affect in the mental status exam?

And if you do a Google search for mood disorder, you’ll see many reputable sites using this terminology.

Oh, wonderful. It will just thrill my bipolar sister to be told now she’s B.A.D.

As a former CNYer, indeed.

Obviously things have changed since the last time I checked.