Nope. The delivery guy stands in the lobby until the person who ordered the food comes down to get it. Then the delivery guy leaves. He’s never given access to the building.
This doesn’t mesh with my understanding of “escort.”
These people already have access to everything. If I can get through the security doors, then they can too. The offices are all lockable with keys and the cubes have lockable cabinets.
Oh, the horror!
Waitaminit. He “drafted in” behind someone? So the whole swiping door policy was pointless!
So this policy restricts us without doing anything to foil the badguys!
This is true in theory, but there are several reasons why this is unlikely:
(1) Management has been asked about this and they’ve said they aren’t doing it.
(2) Our conditions are governed by a union contract and management would have to get agreement from the union before they would be allowed to fire someone based on such monitoring.
(3) The type of work we do: So long as we are getting our work done, management doesn’t care where we are doing it. We don’t have to be sitting at our desks. We could take our laptops to the courtyard to do all our work, so long as it’s done on time to our supervisors’ approval.
(4) Related to No. 3: Frequency of visits to the toilet or leaving the building wouldn’t be a good measure of our getting our work done. There are much more obvious and concrete measurements of our output.
I have my computer log-in password on a post-it on the front of my monitor. But I happily tell anyone who complains about it that I’ll remove it, just as soon as they change the policy that when I’m forced to change password it can’t be the same as any of my previous 2,096 passwords…
Like it or not, compartmentation is part of fire control in commercial spaces. The doors are supposed to be closed, and not propped open. Consider yourself fortunate-many access control systems have ‘door blocking recognition’ which sounds an alarm if the door is not allowed to close in a reasonable length of time. Take your badge to the can and quit griping.
Yep. Any security policy is only as strong as its implementation. It’s an age-old story - whether it is the crook in an apartment building hitting every buzzer until someone opens the door, or the ne’er-do-well in the office complex waiting for an open door and no one challenging him/her for a badge. They do it because it works. The roadblocks (such as the locked doors) slow the flow, but unless everyone on the floor is truly diligent, it won’t stop. (We’re reminded quarterly to badge check at my offices - doesn’t mean people do it).
And why do I have to start my own company in order to have an expectation of reasonable conditions? This relates to my comment in Post No. 10. Employers should not have an expectation of being able to restrict employees to such an extent.
While security may be the stated reason, the more likely explanation is that management wants to monitor how often employees are stepping in or out of the office.
The union has brought it up with management and has been stonewalled. They also stonewalled the issue of putting windows in the doors to reduce the chance of doorsmacking. They flat refused that one too, without explanation. It seems the only possible route is for people to keep propping the doors open to demonstrate that it’s just not feasible to enforce it.
But the specifics of this situation is not really the point. Why are we as a society acceding to the securitification of our environment?
Well, some of us are required to for perfectly reasonable business reasons, such as handling confidential/proprietary information. And some of us feel better knowing that if someone tailgates into the building, they can’t get into our work area quite as easily. We’ve had domestic violence issues here. Not only that, but our badges are also photo ID, so it’s nice to know the guy you don’t recognize is a new-hire and not some nefarious trespasser. Also, just how frickin’ big a deal is it to wear your darned badge? I’ve either worn a badge or carried a physical key every day, every hour of the day, to work in a secure area my entire 20+ years in IT. And it hasn’t killed me yet.
It’s incremental and you know it. It might start out reasonable, but you have to be rigorous or you go down the slope. So you handle sensitive information. Well, you know what, most people don’t. So let’s not let that consideration drift. One day it’s box cutters, then it’s tweezers and nail clippers, then it’s nail polish remover. And now, you know what, it’s more than a pain in the ass to ride on an airplane. Why let this kind of shit spread?
Was the swipe policy in effect when you started there? I’m just trying to imagine this slope you’re talking about, wrt office badge swiping.
Not having your box cutter and tweezers and nail clippers and nail polish remover in the cabin with you is now considered “more than a pain in the ass”?
Our building does this to and its so stupid. We have to wear our badge visible at all times. If you walk in without one security flips out. The funny thing is they are to god damned far away to see the mother fucking picture on my badge ANYWAY! who cares if it is showing or not. Secondly this is not the god damn pentagon, yes i work in the HQ building for my department but we are not the CIA or anything like that. If anyone wants in all they ahve to do is sign in and get a little sticket that “must be shown at all times” Its pointless and just makes us feel special