Reasonableness.
Suppose there was no law against people carrying around grenades and pipe bombs.
Just try to use your head for a minute, I know it’s tough, but would the number of deaths due to pipe bombs and grenades increase?
For comparison, look at any country in Europe, just as an example, which imposes stricter regulations or bans on guns.
Tell me if the number of deaths by guns is lower.
(Hint, it is. It doesn’t take much digging to find out for yourself, since you won’t believe a word I say on the subject matter. But that wouldn’t matter anyway, you don’t want to have that fact in your head, and aren’t concerned as to whether or not it is true. All you care about is that, damned whatever the actual facts are, you’re right, and you’re going to prove it by yelling things to strangers on the internet.)
What, gun laws? Well, laws against anything don’t work, that’s why there are no laws, and no one follows any of them, and they don’t provide the police the tools they need to crack down on violent offenders and unregistered or illegal firearms sales!
That’s literally your argument. Laws don’t work because sometimes people break them.
It’s a fine bit of fantasy, make murder legal in this country and watch the number of murders increase. Just watch.
To suggest that laws and regulation have no effect is staggering.
Was it simpler for people to get pot when pot was illegal, or simpler when it became legal to sell on every corner of Colorado?
No, by your logic, the law had zero effect, and recreational pot use must have been the same before and after. Not higher.
Thought experiment: If things are legal, and others are doing it, does the bandwagon effect happen? What about peer pressure? What about competition, fitting in?
If there’s unrestricted firearms being carried around everywhere, and no laws preventing that from happening, and the police can’t be there to stop a shooting until it is too late, now a person has to either be a victim, or try to deter gun violence by threatening gun violence of their own.
Folks not familiar with guns, who don’t want guns, who feel like they have to have guns. How well do you think they’ll do with guns?
Surely folks won’t die by accident at home. That never happens.
Surely they won’t be too quick to draw a weapon, which could make the other person shoot first? That would never occur.
Or how about in a fit of anger and lost composure, someone shoots another person because they had an easy access to a gun, where if they did not, that person wouldn’t have died? It’s one thing to want to kill someone, it’s another to take a crowbar and literally bash their brains in. That takes another level of maliciousness. Guns allow point and click death. Much easier for people to feel disconnected from the act of murder.
The kinds of weapons some people use in mass shootings are often illegal. But, the fact that they are, allows those weapons to be confiscated, or when someone is acting disturbed and the authorities get involved, and the find a bunch of weapons, some of them illegal, it allows them to actually prevent a crime. It’s not unheard of, there are stories in the news often about attempted mass shootings being stopped in time.
Now, if those weapons are legal, you can’t do squat. You just get to sit there and allow someone to stockpile and prepare.
Back to the pipe bombs and grenades question. You think making them legal might be a good idea?
Do you think if they were legal, the “good guys” would make sure they’ve got some too, just to “deter” other people from using them?
Or do you think they might end up causing death and destruction in a school somewhere, the first use of such weapons in such a tragedy in a long while, because access to those things became legal, and therefore, easier for people to obtain?
There’s no connection at all between the legality of these “inanimate objects” and their use? None whatsoever?
That’s a nice fairy tale world you’re living in.
I don’t know, right now I’m vacationing outside the united states, and the general consensus is why the hell are Americans such pussies that they all feel the need to carry weapons to fight evil boogeymen?
You know, I go through life just fine without feeling so afraid I have to be armed to the teeth. It’s scared little babies who can’t go a day without stroking their guns that are the problem. Somehow, entire prosperous countries get along just fine without guns in every home. And the murder rate and especially the deaths by gun fire are a lot lower, and especially the number of children who die from gun violence, intentional or accidental.
All you have is rhetoric, the false and hysterical argument that laws do nothing, and bans can’t stop every crime. No, they can’t, but somehow, in the magical world of outside of the United States, there is no gun culture, no mass shooting every month, and it’s actually a big deal years later when someone shot up a school or a park. Because they remember the guy’s name, because it doesn’t ever happen.
You couldn’t name the last 12 mass shooters in this country over the past year, because it’s so commonplace that they’re not even that infamous.
They still remember the guy who shot up this country several years back, because it’s so rare.
Stark difference.
Oh, and this country I’m staying in? A lot closer to Russia. Somehow, they still don’t feel like they need to be armed to the teeth to keep out the commies or whatever fantasy these militia groups in the United States conjure up.
And they don’t feel like they need to be so armed that they could start an insurrection. Which is also laughable fantasy.
Do you realize how quickly the US military would obliterate an armed insurrection in this country? We demolish entire nations with actual militaries and real trained soldiers and equipment that militias can’t ever fantasize about owning. They have tanks and missiles and shit, and it’s not stopping our military.
So this fantasy that you’re going to stop an invasion or stop the US government with your weapons is exactly that, a child’s fantasy.
And furthermore, your bullshit fantasy that you’ll protect yourself from gun violence by owning a weapon is also a fantasy.
You’re more likely to be shot if you’re armed. You’re more likely to shoot yourself or a loved one, or have a loved one shoot you, or accidentally shoot themselves. Because you can’t un-pull a trigger.
And unlike a car, which we use to get around, and has a purpose other than running someone down, and is registered and licensed and far more regulated than a weapon, a weapon has but one purpose: To shoot at things.
You don’t need one. I’ve never needed one. Most people don’t. Most people are smarter than you, and less afraid, and miserable on the inside.
And less racist, too. I caught the racist undertones of your post. Full marks for classing up the Pit with your mental drivel.