Oh, not everywhere. Here in Boston it’s much, much more newsworthy that Brady’s suspension has been lifted. :rolleyes:
Well, technically her authority is required to issue the license; when the deputy clerks do it, they’re doing it under her authority, which is grounded in statute. So in theory a non-Davis-authorized license might be invalid. :eek:
I propose a compromise. Brady can be the new county clerk and Davis can be the starter for the Patriots. Everybody (else in the AFC) wins.
There’s going to be a lot to sweep up if she gets one o’ them prison haircuts.
You are already proven wrong. She is in jail yet she is still Clerk. Next time, bring facts.
I wonder how her fellow prisoners will treat her. Or if she’ll get special treatment.
The federal courts have the power to imprison her for contempt, ie for failing to comply with the courts’ order to issue marriage licences to same sex couples. The purpose of jailing her is not punishment, but to force her to exercise her lawful duty to issue marriage licences. That approach is based on the fact that she still holds the office of clerk and can exercise its powers.
If jailing her for contempt removed her from the office of clerk, then she has to be released right away, because she no longer has the power to issue licences and is no longer in contempt.
The only way to remove her from office is under state law, not federal law governing civil contempt. Apparently that means the state Legislature.
The judge addressed that.
I suppose that part of his judgement could be appealed separately.
Since she ordered them to violate the Constitution (which they swore to uphold),wouldn’t that be an illegal order?
And doesn’t the Constitution override her authority?
So does that mean they can issue the licenses against her authority, because a judge ordered it?
One wonders, as an Apostolic Christian who doesn’t believe in cutting her hair, if she has a problem with issuing licenses to hair salons.
This woman earns $80,000 a year in an impoverished county. Her mother was the county clerk for 40 years, and she was her assistant. Her son is now her assistant. The job is hers by right of succession.
Her son has already said he will not issue any licenses. Time for him to be in the cell next to hers.
Judge Bunning has declared that he gets to stay free because the other five have said they will comply.
Ever eager to grab a headline…
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There’s more if you want to read it. What does a license for a civil ceremony have to do with her religion? No clergyman has been forced to marry any couple in the USA–this hasn’t changed. Surely she knows some of her licenses lead to civil weddings. Or weddings by clergy of denominations she no doubt considers Hell Bound.
Of course, Cruz’s “stand with” means giving speeches from Texas. (He’s here for a few speeches before returning to the campaign trail.) It does not mean offering his high-power legal talents…
I’m stunned that you seem unable to comprehend what I’m saying. Unless she can twin herself, she cannot be in both a jail cell and in her office. She has “literally and physically” been removed for her office, and this is unambiguously true. I never said she was no longer going to be employed as clerk.
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“Today, judicial lawlessness crossed into judicial tyranny,” Cruz said. “Today, for the first time ever, the government arrested a Christian woman for living according to her faith. This is wrong. This is not America.”
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Sure it is. Just ask the Mormons.
He won’t be going to jail because the other 5 clerks have agreed to issue licenses. All she had to do stay out of jail was to not interfere with them, and she’s too fucking stubborn to that.
Actually some jails, especially in the South, do charge their inmates for room & board. I don’t think that’s the case in Kentucky though.
Factual question: I imagine, since Kimmie can spring herself by agreeing to everlasting hell any time she wants to, that they’re keeping her in a holding cell, or small “j” jail.
Will they move her to an actual prison at any point if she relents?
what an ass. That Bunning character is “lawless” now? A GWB appointee, son of a very conservative US Senator, and former federal prosecutor. I hope Walker says something so utterly stupid soon, as I’m trying keep him on the top of the most hated list. Cruz is moving up.
But the judge disagrees and orders her deputies to issue licenses without her authority. So, if she does not have the authority to order her deputies not to issue licenses, then why the need for jail?
Plus, the deputies are not parties before the court and the judge shouldn’t have the power to hold them in contempt or otherwise order them to do anything.
I disagree with Davis on this, but I do not think this remedy is proper. The deputies only have such power as is delegated by the Clerk.
She has not been “removed from her office,” in the sense that she is no longer the court officer, or official.
(James Madison fled the White House, but was never “removed from his office.”)
What point are you trying to make here? It doesn’t seem cogent somehow.