So I’m coming to the end of my first year in the US.
Was sat in a bar today talking with (American) friends about what I liked, and what I don’t like. Was talking about how the Pledge of Allegiance and flag-fetish make me vaguely uncomfortable, but different strokes for different folks and all that.
This woman sat next to me (there were 3 of us, and 3 of them) cuts in with an (angry) “excuse me you come from a country with a monarchy” - seems she was really angry about me not being uniformly positive about the USA. I was sober – on first drink – she had had a few, I think, but wasn’t obviously very drunk.
We argued for a bit, with me mostly being sarcastic (“thank you for reminding me of the UK’s political system”). She’s losing, and getting embarrassed, and she calls me a “fucking cunt”. Well, how nice. Me and my friends wonder aloud why she thinks the vagina is negative. Her friends giggle, she’s on her own.
Thanks for ruining my night, you rude, jingoistic bitch.
pdts
(Somewhat angry also at my friend for dragging me away when I wanted to tell her, as I was leaving, that if she is so keen to defend her country there’s a shortage of troops in Iraq and Afghanistan; my friend was just trying to help though.)
Cry me a fucking river. Maybe she was drunk and disorderly but she had a point regarding politeness - don’t criticize a place you’re visiting. Be it someone’s home, another state, or another country, it’s rude.
(1) I live here.
(2) I was asked for my opinion.
(3) Fuck you.
There’s a world of difference between visiting someone’s home/state/country and mouthing off to people who don’t want to hear it, and having a serious, intelligent conversation about your thoughts on a place. Some of my most interesting conversations in college were with foreign students and what they liked and disliked about my university/country, you closed-minded fuck.
I don’t seem him doing anything wrong. He was having a private conversation with his friends when a perfect stranger butted in. IMHO she was the one being rude, not the OP.
Wah wah wah, I’m a limey pussy. Wah wah, someone doesn’t like me talking shit about a country I just arrived in and it ruined my entire night. Wah, she called me a cunt and it made me cry into me fish and chips. I wanted to keep arguing with her but my friends dragged me away because I’m obviously just as big of an idiot as she is. Wahhhh.
Reporting this post. Keep your racist abuse to yourself, dick.
You actually believe this shit, don’t you? Oh and the ‘fish and chips’ crack? Hilarious! It’s funny because ‘limeys’ like to eat fish and chips. Oh and Japs like to eat sushi, Chinks like chow mein and you-know-who like watermelons… is that your thought process?
My friends apologised for dragging me away, by the way. I just have a low tolerance for fools.
Sorry, I didn’t know ‘Englishman’ was a race. Crybaby. Is this your MO? Come to places you’re new at and cry, and then play the victim when you get called on being a whiner?
I see someone’s trying to live up (Or is that down) to TLDR’s example.
I’m with Amp - the OP is completely justified with being pissed at someone having a hissyfit over a private conversation. It doesn’t matter if pdts has been here a minute, or a year.
I’m not going to help you jerk off anymore, after this post. You are clearly rather literal-minded. Racism is here used in the broader sense, perhaps captured by “attacks based on someone’s nationality or ethnicity”. Examples of racist statements:
All Americans are arrogant.
Shut up, you Irish moron.
You are a limey pussy.
And leaving aside the fact that ‘English’ is a relatively clear Ethnic group… I never said I was English, you ignorant fuck.
OP comes in here and whines that he got treated exactly how I (and probably most of us) would expect to get treated if I was in a foreign country and started criticizing their government and/or culture in a public place. Sure, America is the big Red-White-and-Blue Meanie, but turn the situation around. Would you go have this conversation in France or Brazil or the UK, or anywhere else, and not expect the treatment the OP got?
I like all those foods too, except perhaps watermelon.
Sigh, why am I a wuss? Because I don’t like being called a ‘limey pussy’? Would it make you a wuss to not like being called a ‘Yank moron’? Would it make a Japanese a wuss to not like being called a ‘Jap pussy’?
You mangled the Churchill. The beauty of the Churchill quote is that he lets the second part hang. I suppose it takes a certain wit to pull off, though.
Thin-skinned are we? Surely in America people are entitled to answer questions honestly. When I’m in America I don’t volunteer my opinions on American politics, I don’t care and it’s none of my business, but if someone asked I would certainly give an honest answer. Quite frankly the OP didn’t say anything all that bad anyhow.
I know I said I wouldn’t respond to you again, but I can’t help it.
Please drop the victim mentality ‘red white and blue meanie’ stuff.
Imagine you’re in London. It’s your home, and has been for a year. Your British friends ask you what you think of the place. You respond honestly - some positives, some negatives. But mostly, you try to give an honest appraisal of your experiences. This is done at normal bar conversation level, which the people next to you would have to strain to hear in detail.
Would you really expect a British person to chime in and angrily rant about how you have no right to criticise the place because you have President Bush yadda yadda yadda? Do be honest.