Stop acting like a pussy and maybe I’ll reconsider thinking of you as one at a later date. If you’re not a limey then I retract that statement, but if you’ll tell me what you are I’d be glad to insult that country instead - if that’s what you’re looking for. I’m quite sure it’s full of tossers.
You are quite the belligerent moron.
You and the woman I met tonight should hang out. I can’t decide if you’d love each other (you could talk about how persecuted you are, maybe) or hate each other (thanks to constantly offending each other).
pdts
This is the sort of arrogant pedantry I will not put up with.
Idiot.
Sheep-shaggers, too.
up with which you will not put?
pdts
Seemingly, this is what causes the disproportionate response: you can’t tell the difference between “not overtly positive observation” and “insult”. It’s odd.
BTW, you are correct, the UK is indeed full of tossers.
I’ve had many a private conversation in bars; I’ve even negotiated a couple of jobs in bars, not to mention some buying and selling deals. But they were nice, quiet places where rude behavior wasn’t the norm.
As for the OP, I would have been pissed off just at the words “Ekscuuuuussssse Meeee,” which is how they are generally pronounced by self righteous smart asses.
And the winner is …
People who interrupt conversations make no points regarding politeness.
Yeah. A discussion about politics in a bar turned out badly. Who the fuck saw that coming?
A racist statement???
I know lots of Irish morons.
The OP was valid IMO. Cisco’s being a stupid cunt.
That said put down the sabre, you need to grow a few more layers of skin.
You’ve been there for five years and you’re afraid to criticize Arizona? You’re the wuss here. I don’t know why you think everyone in the entire fucking world is as overly sensitive to criticism as you seem to be.
For the record, I have no more problem with foreigners criticizing America than I have with Americans doing so. Obviously, people’s opinions carry more weight when they have longer experience, but I don’t think there’s anything rude about having a polite conversation with friends.
Um, yeah. I’m kinda stunned by this “don’t criticize this country in public” attitude. Seriously, what the fuck?
Don’t forget that in this case the criticism was
That’s not exactly going very far now is it? Anybody getting offended by that is a chest thumping idiot.
What I can’t understand is why the OP didn’t just tell the woman to mind her own business and stay out of what was a private conversation.
Which is exactly what I’d have done
Agreed. It was definitely not worth it to get into an argument.
That is what I should have done.
But I just wasn’t thinking straight, for 2 reasons I guess:
(1) I get very competitive in verbal argument, it’s a personality flaw, but it helps in my chosen discipline.
(2) There was something in her tone or her wording which seemed to communicate a certain ‘how dare the victims of a monarchy criticise us, we invented freedom you know’ pride with an implication that I didn’t have the right to be in the US, and should leave rather than complain. I am a lawful resident of the United States, and it was very odd to hear (or perhaps imagine) that implication about one’s home.
pdts
People from England refer to us as seppos. As in septic tanks.
Calling you a limey pussy is pretty mild by comparison.
So they probably weren’t college bars then?
What if I went to Canada and complained about the maple leaf flag being all over the place? Would they be justified in telling me to fuck off about how they demonstrate pride in their country? I think you kind of have to expect when you go to another country that you’re going to see people flying their own flag. I really don’t encounter the Pledge of Allegiance much. It’s not like people are out there reciting it like an oath in the street every morning, and they’re certainly not trying to force sabre to join in.
Would who be justified? A stranger butting in on a conversation you where having with your friends about how you find cultural differences in displays of patriotism somewhat strange? No they wouldn’t be justified. They’d be idiots.
The American* love of the flag and the Pledge are both strange to my Irish experience. I can totally see why a Brit would react the same way. The OP said it made him “vaguely uncomfortable” the way he portrayed it was more of a observation than a complaint or insult.
*Yeah I know I’m generalising but I honestly can’t think of a western nation that equals American in its in your face celebration of pride in your country.
I think you watch too much television.
There are people who are like that all the time, but y’know, I never see them except on television. We have the July 4th thing, and the Olympics ‘Go USA’, but I just don’t see people walking around every day saying the PoA and waving flags.
There is a tendency to write tacky country songs about it, which nobody but country music fans care about. Other than that the only thing I can think of is that Americans have a tendency to be of the mind that ‘I can make fun of my sister, but you can’t.’ and band together when the criticism comes from abroad.
I just doubt it’s really that much different anywhere else.