Fucking employers, fucking health insurance, fuck all of it

So I’m a temp worker right now, and I earn just enough to get almost no subsidy for insurance.

Last day of enrollment in my temp agencies health insurance is today, and I think today my boss noticed that I was coded wrong and changed me from part time to full time. Which I think makes me eligible for the health insurance through my employer. Luckily he changed my code after business hours on the last day of health care enrollment. Thats nice.

But I think its junk insurance and very high priced and no subsidy, but I can’t find any info on the webpage.

Anyway, fuck all of it. Fuck being an American, living in this backwards idiocracy where stupidity and greed are good.

Fuck the fact that I’m not allowed to call America an idiocracy without people getting offended and demand I pretend we aren’t fucked up people.

Fuck my employer changing my work code at 6pm on the last day of open enrollment.

Fuck the health insurance company, at best, quoting me $300 for some shitty bronze plan that covers nothing.

Fuck the fact that my only choices at the ballot box to resolve issues like this are a hard right plutocratic party that is all action and a center right plutocratic party that is all talk.

Fuck all of it.

I’m moving to Mexico in my 50s. Fuck this place, I’m not spending my nieces and nephews inheritance on this garbage ass health care system.

80% of why I care about politics is due to our shit ass health care system. But nobody is going to change that anytime soon.

Even when I had insurance, it was shit. High deductibles, zero out of network coverage. The system isn’t sustainable.

Also fuck me for sucking at life that I can’t get shit straightened out despite being middle aged. Most people at my age are established. I gave my old employer 6 years of good work and they threw me out like garbage without a second thought.

I’m tired of it all. Fourty fucking more years of entropy until I finally get to die.

I’m so sorry you have this problem. Seriously.
Working people without health insurance through their employment are screwed. We have to do something in this country.
IMO, Mexico is probably a bad idea. Maybe you could get into Canada. Do you have marketable skills?

I can fit 8 hot dogs in my mouth without sneezing.

I have a STEM degree, but getting into Canada is hard as hell. I’ve looked into it and their point system.

Honestly, if I do get sick and don’t have insurance I’m just going to quit my job and go on medicaid.

FWIW, after I got laid off I tried to apply for health insurance through a navigator. They told me my monthly income was too high for medicaid (due to my unemployment compensation) but my annual income was too low for a subsidized ACA plan (due to unemployment insurance only being 6 months long). So I was disqualified from both plans and went w/o insurance when I was unemployed because my only option was to pay $400/month for garbage insurance that covered nothing. I know the ACA is better than nothing, but if the best we can get with 60 democratic senators, 257 house members and a president with a mandate is a heritage foundation plan, then whats the fucking point?

Latin America isn’t bad I don’t think. I can get a good health insurance policy for a couple grand a year in Costa Rica. I guess my goal is save money and get the fuck out of this backwards racist plutocracy before my health totally fails and bankrupts me.

Heh. I’m self employed, thus doubly screwed. The ACA fucked me over royally. At first I thought I’d just deal with it because it seemed some people were better off, but that has evaporated.

Here’s how to get into Canada, apply for a one year working tourist visa, get a job (unemployment is lower than it’s been in ages! Where I live there are always looking for tech people. What stripe? I don’t know, but it’s on the news all the time.) Be an outstandingly helpful and pleasant employee. Make as many friends as you can, and date lots of women.

It’s not a sure thing, of course, but it has worked for people before. The employer wants them enough to sponsor them for a visa, or they network with someone to an unexpected opportunity, or marry a local girl and just like that, things get easier!

In addition, the province of Quebec used to offer sponsored (homestay) French immersion course. Learning french will help your points to immigrate quite a bit I think. Or if you ever fancy a civil service job, etc.

Understand, none of this comes with any guarantee, and it’s surely all fraught with hoops to jump through, long waits to hear, and red tape in two languages. It’s definitely a roll of the dice, but you don’t know, things could always break your way.

Maybe a year from now you’ll be half way to being a Canadian, AND decent healthcare.

Just a silly suggestion, ( I’m surprised more people don’t try this avenue though!), and Good Luck on the health insurance front!

I’m self-employed, too, and did well with the ACA. But don’t worry… we’ll all be screwed by and by.

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I’m sorry it’s all going so hard for you, Wesley. Your choice to flee to Costa Rica is perfectly understandable. I hope it turns out to be the best thing you ever decided to do.

Good news for you then!

Heh. Except I supported the ACA, regardless of its effect on me. Fuckitall.

That was bad, but as Greg Stohr, Supreme Court reporter for Bloomberg News noted on Tweeter:

“This is your occasional reminder that the five justices who voted to uphold Obamacare in 2012 are still on the Supreme Court.”

Still, a good moment to note that the do nothing Republicans are on notice that they have to do something about not just making things worse and work with Democrats towards a better replacement of the ACA…

Unless the Republicans prefer to be voted out of office, I’m ok with any of those results.

We need to do more than just voting 55% democratic for the next one, two, or even three election cycles. The challenges that America faces, that the world faces, are dire, and they require extreme measures. We need a radical overhaul of the country. Incremental change is essentially a null response. We need an entirely new constitution, and we need to compel (or convince) other nations globally to do the same. Unfortunately, I doubt most people regard this current situation as an emergency and will continue to vote, more or less, as we have for the past few decades. For that, there is a bitter and brutal price to pay.

Holy fucking shit. The entire ACA could fall. 20 million people could lose insurance, and millions more could lose consumer protections.

Fuck this country.

Doesn’t this judgment have to go through an appellate court, or was this decision at the appellate level and then the supreme court?

The earliest reference I’ve personally seen to a proposal for universal health care was a statement made by FDR in 1932. Unfortunately, I don’t see that issue being resolved 85 years from now either. :mad:

Other people have told me about references they’ve seen that predate the 20th century.

Wrong! Boy, did they change it, and soon. Maybe you’ll turn the rest of the list around, too.

I do sympathize with you. I hear a lot of stories like this- yes, we have jobs, Jobs, JOBS! in this country, but contributing an honest day’s work just doesn’t cut it in our system for too many people. I think you are right that this is a symptom of plutocracy, and I hope the cruelty of it all is raised in enough people’s consciousnesses that we can effect real change.

Hang in there.

We’ve made some progress.

Medicare and medicaid. SCHIP. The ACA (assuming it stands). Various state and local programs.

But we need genuine medicare for all. This latest court ruling shows why. If the best the democrats can give us is tepid, corporatist tweaks that can be overturned in court then what is the point.

If the ACA is overturned, I expect more ballot initiatives for single payer in the next 10-15 years. And hopefully one might actually pass.

I really worry about my nieces and nephews. What country and world are they inheriting?

Overpriced, evil, shit healthcare.
Climate change going unaddressed
Resource depletion being unaddressed.
Income inequality and plutocracy running wild
Government run by oligarchs and their lackeys.
The rejection of democracy and mulitculturalism in favor of racist authoritarianism.

Jesus. I feel so helpless to make their lives better.

I’m normally an optimist too. But there are serious issues that aren’t being taken on.

Yep. 5th Circuit is next in line then the Supremes - where all 5 who supported ACA last time still sit.

It won’t change because of healthcare – for most people in this country, having health insurance and using the healthcare ‘system’ (if you can call it that) isn’t something they think about until they get sick. For such an ‘advanced’ and ‘modern’ society, with all of our unprecedented access to all kinds of information, we have a terrible lack of foresight and an abundance of ignorance.

Nothing will change until something so bad happens that nearly everyone is impacted by it. Like another great depression.

Yes, your situation sounds f’ed up. I think that one problem with the ACA is that the subsidies aren’t rich enough. It was something that should have been fixed years ago, but isn’t currently being fixed because one of the parties is crazy. If you don’t mind me asking, what state do you live in? As you probably know, the situation is very different state-by-state, in terms of how the plans are priced.