Fucking Morons Still Trashing Buzz

Buzz should invite the whack jobs to view the next SLS launch close-up—say from seats under the left SRB. They would only get wet for a few seconds…

For the record, The guy Buxx punched was one Bart Sibrel, who has probably never said a thing about Apollo that wasn’t a lie.

And he is a stalker. He was a whiny little piss boy when the local DA refused to press charges against Buzz but was quietly warned he could be charged with kidnapping if he kept making complaints.

He made it to infinity and beyond.

I’ll throw in $50 if he’ll start with Alex Jones. I want him good and fresh when he pops that giant blowhard.

“for punching Alex Jones, the part of Buzz Aldrin will be played by Deontay Wilder.”

Sounds like a real winner.

Yes, actually. Some do claim that.

Rockets don’t work in a vacuum as there’s nothing to push against, so you can’t travel in space. The ISS is a hoax, as are all satellites.

Forget Buzz. Let’s send Vitaly Minakov on tour.

Oh Sibrel’s a prize package alright. Like so many Moon hoax nutters he inflates his own credentials, lies about what he is presenting, and hides from real critics, sniping at them when he hopes they are not looking.

Sibrel pretended to be a History Channel reporter to stalk Ed Mitchell, went to his house under those false pretenses and demanded that Mitchel swear on a bible that he had been to the Moon. Sibrel had tried to make hay out of the fact that most of the Apollo astronauts usually avoided his slimy stalkery self, but Mitchel, well:

At least two other astronauts were willing to swear but Sibre presents all of them as trying to avoid swearing on the bible.

All of the prominent Moon Hoaxers are really slimy, scummy people, when you get right down to it. Jay Windley (of Clavius.org) once called Moon Hoaxers cultural vandals - people who won’t make anything in their lifetime to they try to smash other people’s works.

Did she ever show you her birth certificate? How do you know she was Collins’ niece??

I rest my case. :smiley:

Those guys are nutbags.

My Dad was the science editor of a large metropolitan newspaper. He spent a lot of my childhood in Houston, covering the shots. He wrote on the second half of Mercury, all of Gemini and Apollo through 1974, when he left the paper.

He came home with the most remarkable swag. Stuff that simply was amazing. I still have one piece in my house. It’s a highly detailed doll, about…hmm…12" high. Snoopy. Dressed in full moon landing gear. Holding that briefcase-like item. Just…brilliant. Anyway, who would go through the hassle of making up expensive swag to give away to the press for a non-event?

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I don’t get why any of the astronauts would have complied with that jerk’s demand. Boot in the rear to assist the twerp out of one’s home is a rather appropriate response, I’d say.

ALL CTers are slimy, scummy people, when you get right down to it. Maybe they’re not slimy and scummy in all their dealings, but their chosen method for getting themselves noticed is downright mean.

Apt, very apt description. Thank you for posting that.

Perhaps this is a pathology more deserving of sympathy than it is attention-whoring deserving of derision.

Maybe a lot of the Hoaxers are deeply frightened by the very idea that we are not the center of all things and that we are in fact so remarkably small in the scope of Space itself. That we had to travel so many thousands of miles to stand on the Moon and did so successfully. ( Most of the time. Sorry, Lovell… )

Cooper: You don’t believe we went to the Moon?
Ms. Kelly: I believe it was a brilliant piece of propaganda, that the Soviets bankrupted themselves pouring resources into rockets and other useless machines…
Cooper: Useless machines?
Ms. Kelly: And if we don’t want to repeat of the excess and wastefulness of the 20th Century then we need to teach our kids about this planet, not tales of leaving it.
Cooper: You know, one of those useless machines they used to make was called an MRI, and if we had one of those left the doctors would have been able to find the cyst in my wife’s brain, before she died instead of afterwards, and then she would’ve been the one sitting here, listening to this instead of me which would’ve been a good thing because she was always the… calmer one.
Ms. Kelly: Murph got into a fistfight with several of her classmates over this Apollo nonsense. So we thought it would be best to bring you in and see what ideas you might have for dealing with her behaviour on the home front.
Cooper: Alright… yeah, you know what? There’s a game tomorrow night. She’s going through a bit of a baseball phase. Her favourite team is playing. There’s gonna be candy and soda and…
[smiles]
Cooper: Yeah… I think I’ll take her to that…

  • Interstellar, 2014

Interesting to mention Snoopy. How many people here remember that Schulz was a big proponent of the early Space Program, and featured it prominently in his Peanuts strips.

At the Schulz Museum (Santa Rosa, Ca.) there is an exhibit focusing on that. Or there was, maybe. I don’t know if it was a rotating exhibit or a permanent exhibit.

For Apollo 10 the astronauts named the command module Charlie Brown and the LM Snoopy.

Some of the killjoys at NASA didn’t like this.

I just watched “Room 237,” a documentary about a handful of different people’s theories about the symbolism in Stanley Kubrick’s “The Shining.”

I was surprised and dismayed to see that one of the theories presented (uncritically) was that the movie contains hints left by Kubrick to admit to being the filmmaker in charge of faking the moon landing footage.

I was also surprised to hear the person expounding this theory say that he wasn’t alleging that Apollo 11 didn’t actually make it to the moon—only that the footage was faked.

What? Why would you fake the footage if you actually made it to the moon?

Walgreen’s lost the original film?

Hah!

News article, including Peanuts strips of Snoopy The Astronaut, and some photos of scenes from the Schulz Museum exhibit.

40 Years After Apollo, Peanuts Still Seeing Stars

(ETA: For you locals: Note the call-out to Petaluma too.)

In Mitchell’s case I think it was a case of calling an asshole’s bluff, humiliating him, giving him the boot and forcing Sibrel to lie about it later on.

I like the fact that Mitchell did this if only because in addition to all their factual errors we can point out where Sibrel is outright lying about his personal encounters with Astronauts.

I consider a lot of CTers in certain areas to simply be mislead. After a certain point of involvement they have invested too much time and energy to admit they are wrong. Moon hoaxers, however, start the game by shitting on one of the greatest engineering and science accomplishments of the 20th century. They have to know that, and so essentially are declaring their ego to be bigger than human accomplishment.

The film crews there were booked up, so they had to use the soundstage on Mars.

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