Devil’s advocate: if nothing about Wright or his church was racist, doesn’t that reflect poorly on Obama for repudiating Wright and nudging him out of his role in the campaign? If nothing else, it’d certainly make people who didn’t know better think that there WAS something racist there…
Another lie. Why do you lie?
Obama never said Wright was racist. It’s possible to be inflammatory and be a distraction without being racist.
Who are you voting for, Elvis?
Got it. Anybody who doesn’t think your preferred candidate is the Messiah wants to “fuck up your country”. Right. :rolleyes:
Have you *always *been this infantile?
Maybe they don’t realize it, but that would be the effective result of voting for a 3rd Bush term. I also don’t think Obama is the Messiah. I would have just as easily voted for Hillary. My motivation is to get the Republicans out of the White House. I don’t care who does it.
And there’s the problem - focusing on the culture rather than the theology has an inevitable divisive result, does it not? It emphasizes the separateness of one’s culture in the human realm, not the unity of humanity under God. As I said, it’s debatable, but not disimissible, that that fits into a plausible definition of racism.
The “church” under discussion is that *particular *congregation in Chicago. There has never been any discussion I’m aware of that the UCC in general is a racist or hateful denomination, or supports those things.
You just said they “want to fuck up your country”. Why *do *you lie?
He can’t help it, not that that’s any excuse.
Well, Dio’s statement, I think, can be interpreted in one of two ways:
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A Der Trihs-like “Republicans are evil who like to see people suffer.”
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A statement that some people want to implement certain policies that will screw up the country. (Note no actual malice need be implied.)
Now, given the number of times that Dio agrees with Der Trihs, I’m not saying #1 is out of the question, but he seems to be at least claiming he means #2.
If you really want to parse it. let’s just say that, for whatever reason, be it childish vindictiveness or or latent bigotry, they want to irrationally vote against their own best interests, an against the best interests of their country.
To bring it down to one issue of paramount importance to women, the Supreme Court is one seat away from overturning Roe. I have yet to hear a coherent explanation as to why it’s in the best interest of women to vote against the only candidate who will preserve their reproductive rights.
No, it cannot. Refresher:
Not “They want to enact policies that IMHO will fuck up the country”.
Yeah, now, he is. :rolleyes:
This kind of churlish over-literalism is really childish.
You said what you said. Do you accept responsibility for it or do you not?
Full responsibility, your willful misinterpretation notwithstanding.
He’s going to write in Hillary, come hell or high water. Such single-mindedness in the face of reality is sad to witness, isn’t it?
As a complete aside, is anyone else yelling “Cripple Fight!!!” reading Dio and Elvis’s posts to each other?
The only job I’ve ever had that wasn’t through a corporation of some sort was when I was in the military (and it could be argued that a government is just a big non-profit form of a corporation). What would you propose to replace them with? Some sort of loose confederation of independent contractors? What kind of economy, let alone world, do you envision without companies in it?
If you’re stretching the meaning that far then you’ve lost any meaningful definition for the sake of insisting you’re right. IMHO.
If someone decides there service will be aimed at feeding the hungry does that mean they are prejudice against the sick? Is that a reasonable plausible conclusion?
This is very poorly reasoned. You claim the “die hard war mongering republicans and the bigots” are open about it. So they would be in polls same as everyone else who does or doesn’t vote for Obama for any particular reason.
But the objective fact is that Obama is winning.
Either (a) you’re wrong about them being out in the open, or (b) you’re wrong that there’s enough of them.
Which door do you choose?