Please. I own stock and I grew up with no privilege, believe me. Ever seen The Grapes of Wrath? That was my grandparents - right down to being from Oklahoma in my grandmother’s case (grandpa was from Arkansas but same story.) I don’t know what else to tell you at this point. If you feel so strongly that everyone’s hard-earned money should be taken away and redistributed among the poor then start the New Bolshevik Party and throw a revolution. See who shows up. If you get enough turnout then maybe we’ll make some real changes around here like soup lines and forced labor camps. If not, sorry about your life! Good luck now, and don’t forget to write (just not in this thread, please.)
Shh, you figured out my hidden agenda. I don’t want to just take rich people’s money away and re-distribute it, I want to eat them too.
By the way, in case it wasn’t clear: “want”, in my mind, implies at least some willingness to do what it takes to obtain the object in question. Not just a childish, detached desire. I’d like to summit Mt. Everest, but I’m not willing to do what it takes to get there (time + money + risk), so I would never add it to a personal “list of wants.” While leaving the door open to a few exceptions I haven’t thought of, I generally don’t believe that people truly want the things they aren’t willing to work for.
I agree, Paris Hilton works much harder than my Mexican gardner. That lazy slob only works 60 hours a week. Rather than invest in stocks he’s paying health insurance and college tuition for his kid.
Good choice. The poor are tough and stringy.
Speaking of Paris Hilton, it turns out she’s sufficiently steamed about McCain using her image (without permission) to mock Obama that she’s retaliated.
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Oh, this can’t be good for the “wrinkly white-haired guy”, now, can it?
- snerk *
Upside is, we could respond appropriately, and no jury in the world would convict us.
Do you not fucking get that your Mexican gardner is here because of the hope our system gives him and his descendants for a better life? Are you Ashton Kutcher or something? Trying to punk me by saying incomprehensibly retarded shit?
He’d move to Germany if he could.
You need some help? I’ve got a truck full of mexicans and a flatbed loaded with straw. If you hire my crew we could construct your ignorant ass straw men for you.
Why are so many conservatives ignorant about so much? Yeah the boogey lib wants to take your hard earned money and give it to welfare queens… fuck you people are stupid and there’s millions of you. :dubious:
We think that government belongs out of our lives as much as possible and have this funny idea that we have the right to spend the money that we earn the way we think best instead of having someone else forcibly take it from us and spend it however they want, while you believe just the opposite, and yet you call us the stupid ones. shakes head Talk about aggressive ignorance…
You think the government belongs out of your lives except when it pertains to gay marriage, stem cell research, abortion rights, drug laws, and sending American boys to get paralyzed for no good reason.
Hey, how’d you like the cartoon a few posts above, you know, the one that showed you’re a fucking ignorant sack of shit. Taxed twice indeed. Ignorant, mental failures like yourself give these people their power. Think for yourself for one god damned minute and maybe you’ll realize that the talking points are bullshit.
So you oppose the idea of a state military, a police force, state funded highways, roads and bridges, a postal service, public schools, fire departments, any kind of social services, any kind of national intelligence agency, any kind of weapons R&D, any kind of state regulations and inspections of food, drugs or buildings, any kind of public sewage or santitation systems, even the production of currency itself.
The conservative refrain that they oppose “confscating” money is completely bogus. If you believe we should even one thing on the above list, then you believe that the government should confiscate money. All you’re arguing about is how to spend it.
I dunno, why are you such a bigot? I’m just saying what makes sense to me without giving much thought as to whether it’s “liberal” or “conservative”, something you apparently can’t comprehend. I’m about as liberal as they come socially, and very moderate fiscally, which apparently means the average doper sees me as this. Did you bother to read the very thread you’re posting in, by the way? How 'bout post #8?
Hey don’t get me wrong, I hope everyone in the country votes Obama. But your drama queen whine about taking money from the rich is conservative talking point bullshit.
That said, vote early and vote often.
The things you list, Dio, are things that everyone benefits from and I believe most conservatives recognize that society as a whole needs these services. What we don’t like is for the government to attempt to take money from those who earn it and give it to those who earn less.
Gimme a break. DanBlather said 30 million people holding 78% of the public stock in the country was too few, implying it should be redistributed. Disagreeing with that is not conservative talking point bullshit. It’s a logical reaction to an extreme viewpoint.
Raise taxes is a valid discussion point in a capitalist society
Take people’s private wealth (their stock) and give it to other people is revolutionary. And not in the good way that they’re always talking about in weight-loss commercials.
And no one is asking for that.
No, the implication is that something is wrong with the system if so few own so much. There should be opportunity for everyone, and a lot of modern conservatism is based on leveraging the law to make those already wealthy, wealthier. For example that sillyness above about multi-taxing. It’s a campaign to make already wealthy people pay less taxes. Deregulation is about making already wealthy companies even more so. None of those things helps a hard working entrepreneurial common man attain great wealth. That’s the problem. It should be an even playing field, I know wealth breeds wealth. It’s how it works, but they shouldn’t have special rules to make it breed faster at the expense of everyone else.
Actually, it’s liberal-politician talking-point bullshit.
And I’ve been listening to lefties whinge for decades about how mean, cold-hearted and selfish conservatives are because they object to being dinged to pay for this or that social program.