Furries: why do so many dress as foxes?

Ohhh… and lots of kicks in the nuts. It’ss Gold, Jerry. Comedy gold!

I am not putting down the furries. I just want you to understand that is not my intention. I can understand the mindset… reminds me of the White Wolf people and some of my personal experiences. I think it is a positive thing, sexually and spiritually. Nothing wrong with the furry freak brothers.

Maybe they’re just Genesis fans (or Peter Gabriel fans).

I’ll bet a lot of furries are into Cordwainer Smith too. Even as a straight non-furry teenage girl, I was obsessed with C’Mell (from The Ballad of Lost C’Mell, which I now see is linked to WikiFur but with a woefully bare entry. My god, it’s C’MELL! She should have pages and pages and pages of fan sites and Wikiness!)

Speaking of sub-genres, what about “rutting sex”. Sex in menses seems to be a favorite of some anthros, from what I have heard. Bloody and primal.

Well, from the way the Wikipedia entry describes it, you might want to think of it more like a religion - a sort of fusion of extant pagan, New Age, and Native American beliefs. That may be why it’s taken so seriously, and why you don’t. After all, does any religion’s fervor make much sense to those on the outside?

On the opposite end of the spectrum, I believe you are taking it much too seriously… What else is STG to do…loan it more power than it has with sinister and suggestive cast aspersions. It seems no stranger to me than any other creative roleplaying-- sexual or otherwise.

(For the record, I am not a furry.)

Not to hijack, but the OP mentioned that he considers LARPing to be strange, so I’m wondering why is LARPing considered so strange by the general population? I’ve been LARPing for about 10 years and nothing would make me give it up. You get a ton of exercise, it’s fun, it’s competitive, and the people are awesome to party with. It’s basically fencing, American football, and theater in one.

Just curious. Perhaps I’ll start a thread on this tomorrow.

Well, you can describe it that way, but from the outside it still looks like socially awkward adults playing dress-up and make-believe.

Well, in the absence of the internet and conventions, I imagine that these people didn’t have the opportunity to meet that special someone who would treat a grown man like a baby rhinoceros. As disappointing as that might be for them, being denied would probably lead to them meeting a nice girl/boy, growing out of the phase and becoming somewhat sexually mature and capable of ordinary relationships with other humans.

Hell, I thought girls with braces were sexy in elementary school, it’s a good thing I grew out of that one.

This was my wife’s take on the SCA, and one of the reasons I don’t do it anymore… for far to many of the folks I met, she was absolutely correct.

At least in Korean high schools, they are. And they kind of are.

Did I just understand this right?? :eek: and if I did…what about it? or are you just making a statement?

While my first reaction was to agree with this, how much does this sound like the “Oh you don’t really love Dr. Frankenfurter, Johnny, it’s just a phase–hey why don’t you change out of mommy’s stuff now and we’ll go out and play catch” mentality?

It also gives us regular pen-and-paper RPGrs someone to look down on.

“We may be sitting here trying to influence 20-sided dice with our minds, but at least we’re not wearing capes.”

Because you’re associating it with a common parental approach to a child who self-identifies as homosexual, rather than seeing it as a response to the behavioral reinforcement that comes from having a sexual fetish gratified.

:rolleyes: And of course you can’t be sexually mature AND have a fetish. Especially if it’s one that you find silly.

You’re fooling yourself if you think that there hasn’t always been plenty of people with the more obscure and/or icky but harmless fetishes (such as adult babies or inflation porn or golden showers). Many of them went their whole lives wishing that they had a way to live out their fantasies, and endured a crappy or non-existant sex life as a result.

For the record and before you ask, I don’t have any fetishes, so this isn’t some personal justification.

We all have vetishjes, even if it’s a vanilla fetish.

If you’re going to bring the strawman you can at least spare the passive-aggressive rolleyes. No one said you can’t be sexually mature and have a fetish.

I will say that you can’t be sexually mature and spend any amount of time voluntarily holding a stuffed animal while wearing a pacifier in a public place. If you want to argue that creepyman is a sexually mature adult, you go right ahead.

Helia Melonowski?

Strawman? How so?

Basically, from this comment and your others above, this is what it seems like you’re saying:

Man A has a fetish.

Fetish is “normal” = can be sexually mature
Fetish is something that you find odd = cannot be sexually mature

I don’t know this guy, so it’s entirely possible that he’s creepy and immature. That doesn’t mean that everyone who likes to dress up like that is. Nobody’s fetish is better than anyone else’s (exceptions made for those permanently mentally or physically damaging themselves or others).

So, it’s just this one fetish that precludes being “sexually mature?” Why this one in particular? And what do you mean by “sexually mature,” anyway?

A fetish that involves infantilism, a voluntary rejection of one’s own physical form (and more tothe point, entire species), and furthermore relies upon an association with children’s toys for arousal, cannot be sexually mature. Because it is an outright psychological rejection of everything that it means to be sexually mature.

I appreciate your defense of everyone’s sexual liberty, but the unfortunate problem is that it flies in the face of logic, viz, if I want someone to treat me like a baby animal instead of an adult human, I’m obviously having some problems being a…?

Right, an adult human.

See above with exception of last. I’m using sexual maturity as a shorthand for psychosexual maturity. Obviously most of the subjects in the picture should, biologically speaking, be capable of reproduction, though heaven forbid it actually happen. Psychosexually, leaving the genital phase of Freudian development.

I must admit that I have always found the “furry phenomenon” interesting, from a fellow “sexual outsider” perspective – I may not have this particular fetish, but I do understand how it is being far outside the sexual mainstream, since I have a “superheroine-in-peril” fetish, which some people imagine to be one step away from becoming a serial killer.

I suppose that the majority of furries are a lot more normal, well-rounded, etc. than people give them credit for being. Some people will just keep it to themselves, or only share it with a few online friends. As in any hobby/obsession, there will be various levels of involvement in the fetish. I just wonder what percentage of furries get into the phenomenon enough to actually attend the conventions.

The funny thing is, I learned about furries from one of my “superheroine-in-peril” forums a few years ago, when some people were joking that “At least I’m not a furry!” Apparently they felt that furrydom was even stranger than getting sexually turned on by watching superheroines getting knocked out and captured. Ha!