Was the original Star Trek or Star Wars created by and for fans? No, but fandoms arose out of them. I think movies targeted specifically to fans usually fail to deliver in some way or another; that’s why I think the Star Wars prequels weren’t as good as they could have been, since Lucasfilms was specifically wanking the fans.
I’ve been using Kung Fu Panda a lot in this thread since it’s the most recent big movie that applies. I don’t think it was created by or for furries, but for people who find anthro animals appealing. A subset of this group is the folks who make a fandom out of it, with the remainder being ‘normal’ people. (I do fully believe that a non-furry adult should be able to find KFP entertaining, as long as they don’t have the cartoons-are-kiddy-material-only stick up their ass.)
No wonder you’re such a free spirit. 
My childhood was a hard mother.
Right. I consider myself very non-furry, and very non-LARPish.
Yet, I love animation and genre films. Shit, I’m an animator myself. And I’m Male, 35, married and have two kids. So, yeh, there are many other aspects and things to enjoy in such films such as KFP, than just getting all tweaked out on the fact it has anthropomorphic animal characters.
Well, sure. Not once have I said or tried to imply that if you enjoy KFP, you must secretly like the furry, which levdrakon seems to be insisting on. But you do find it acceptable enough that it doesn’t actually detract from the experience of the movie, right? That’s what I’m driving at.
You and I presume a majority of people don’t blink an eye at the presence of it in a mainstream film, but then they can’t seem to grasp that for some people, that aspect of the movie is what makes it appealing to them, over the martial arts, over the animation, over the fact that Jack Black’s in it. For furries, the appeal of KFP is seeing these anthro animals interact, in addition to anything else about the movie that interests them.
I’m gonna stop posting to this thread, as I’ve spent too much of my boss’s time on it, and I’m working harder at it than the resident furry.
I gotchya Bosstone… no need to explain more. It makes perfect sense the way you put it.
I’m just your average anthrofan, not a furry, though I know a few through a Yahoo! group that I belong to.
Do a Google Image Search for “Doug Winger”, just don’t do it while at work. 
Leave me out of it please. You’re going to bail, so bail.
I’m not saying KFP is furry, I’m saying furries think we’re all furries because KFP has “anthros” in it. Or at least there is an attempt to rationalize it that way. Look, if you’re thing is copyright symbols you’re going to find copyright symbols everywhere. Doesn’t mean the rest of us are into copyright symbols because your copyright symbol-community is into them.
Any Furry who says that everyone who likes KCP is a closet furry is solidly in the minority. It’s like a gay guy claiming all guys are gay.
You mean they’re not? 
My personal example here is the Redwall books…
Fairly good youth fantasy novels…but really quite generic, on the whole…probably wouldn’t have bothered with half of them, if not for the fact that the characters are anthropomorphic animals.
Which is because I’m a fur-fan - even if I’m a little annoyed that my chosen species is mostly Evil in the book (I’m still not clear on whether the Gingerveres in Redwall and Martin the Warrior are the same cat or two different cats with the same name and personalities)…
You can certainly read them without being a fur-fan…you can even dig that the characters are animals as a general fantasy fan, just as if they were humans, Dwarves and orcs.
But the fact that they’re not - Martin, Matthias, and Mattimeo are mice, not humans; Constance, Urthstripe, and Rawnblade are badgers, not Dwarves; and Cluney, Gabool, and Blaggut are rats, not Orcs - that’s a significant part of the appeal for me. To the point that, like I said, I probably wouldn’t bother with them if they’d been about generic fantasy races.
It’s a spectrum. =^.^=
I’m going to have to object here. SCA isn’t a LARP (in the sense it is generally used) any more than Civil War re-enactors are LARPers.
Sorry for the interruption; carry on. 
Not the same sense, but in my previous group there was quite a large overlap.
We’d be sitting around discussing vampires while one gent worked on his chainmail…
For the love of Og will you give the “furries think we’re all furries because KFP (or any other animated animal movie) has “anthros” in it” line a rest? A few furries may “rationalize” their interest in anthropomorphic animals by pointing out their use in mainstream movies, but I don’t know a single furry who has ever claimed that it means everyone is “a little bit furry”, or anything remotely like it.
How are you an authority on what other people think? Cite, please?
When did I say I was an authority on the subject of furries? I’m relying on what they tell me, and what they tell me is all over the place.
See, that’s something I’ve kind of wondered. About the only time I feel furry is watching a big silverback at a zoo. I’m not saying that I’m attracted to them sexually, but I can certainly relate to them spiritually better than, oh, say a cat…
I mean, I guess what I’m trying to say is that sometimes I feel like a big hairy ape
It’s pretty weird that furries seem to reject primate furryism for being too familiar. I guess you have to be furry outsuide of your Order.
It’s a bit shamanic, isn’t it? Like, “What would the wise turtle do in this situation? I bet he would totally give that $100 back, if he had opposable thumbs and a dollar-like system of currency.” Doesn’t seem so awful to me.
But…you should threadshit? Dude, if you have no interest in fighting your ignorance, and you’re just here to point and laugh, why are you here at all? [Edit: Excessively snarky add-on removed.]
Don’t bother. He’s sweating bullets over whether or not he’s a furry, and he’ll never give an inch. I say the boy doth protest too much.
They’re both LARPers. My criterion is this: Could you re-enact a medieval conflict in GURPS? Yes. Could you re-enact the Civil War in GURPS? Yes. In fact, there are tons of RPG systems, GURPS and otherwise, designed for those very things. Those are role-players, and the people who dress it up and do it in live action are live-action role players. The analogy to the murder mystery dinner parties is a great one, actually.
what do you mean when you say you can relate to a gorilla spiritually?