Futurama: Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences (8/26)

[TriPolar]

Almost forgot, I saw Sergio Aragones at O’Hare airport, probably in the late 80’s. Then I had to pretend to be someone else to get a limo.

[Tanbarkie]

@GIGObuster

@Bryan_Ekers

Well, if you introduce a transporter gun in the first act, you better use it by the third.

I think it’s called “Kirk’s rule”, or something else Trekkish.

Chekhov’s Gun

And no, it is not referring to the Star Trek Russian guy, but to the playwright Anton Pavlovich Chekhov.

“If you say in the first chapter that there is a rifle hanging on the wall, in the second or third chapter it absolutely must go off. If it’s not going to be fired, it shouldn’t be hanging there.”
—Anton Chekhov (From S. Shchukin, Memoirs. 1911.)

“Captain, there seems to be some sort of aerial phenomenon passing overhead.”

“It’s so loud! Like… a loud wind, flying… over us! As if it were… something humorous that… we… didn’t get!”

“Fascinating.”

[Little_Nemo]

@Spoke

@cochrane

Sergio Aragones has had an influence on MAD readers for almost 50 years. He’s an institution. I was enjoying his “Drawn Out Dramas” and larger format sketches since I was in elementary school. As for Cheech and Chong, they reunited and went on tour and have a couple of new projects in the works. I’d give Futurama a pass on mentioning them, too.

So? None of that changes the fact that he is dated as a cultural reference.

Most people under 30 just aren’t going to get 20- and 30-year-old references like these. It makes the show feel as though it’s written by culturally out-of-touch 40-somethings or 50-somethings still mostly stuck in the 1970s.

You think Katy Perry jokes are going to stand the test of time?

[Spoke]

@Little_Nemo

@Spoke

So? None of that changes the fact that he is dated as a cultural reference.

Most people under 30 just aren’t going to get 20- and 30-year-old references like these. It makes the show feel as though it’s written by culturally out-of-touch 40-somethings or 50-somethings still mostly stuck in the 1970s.

You think Katy Perry jokes are going to stand the test of time?

I dunno. Let’s come back to this thread in ten years and see if yours held up.

[TriPolar]

@Spoke

@Little_Nemo

You think Katy Perry jokes are going to stand the test of time?

I dunno. Let’s come back to this thread in ten years and see if yours held up.

Reminds me of Rocky & Bullwinkle. It was full of references I didn’t understand as a little kid, but it was still fun to watch, and it just got better over time.

Futurama has a range of references crossing generations. There’s usually something there for everybody.

But not enough Bender. All the best shows, and movies, are about Bender, not the meatbags.

[Leiko]

@Spoke

@cochrane

Sergio Aragones has had an influence on MAD readers for almost 50 years. He’s an institution. I was enjoying his “Drawn Out Dramas” and larger format sketches since I was in elementary school. As for Cheech and Chong, they reunited and went on tour and have a couple of new projects in the works. I’d give Futurama a pass on mentioning them, too.

So? None of that changes the fact that he is dated as a cultural reference.

Most people under 30 just aren’t going to get 20- and 30-year-old references like these. It makes the show feel as though it’s written by culturally out-of-touch 40-somethings or 50-somethings still mostly stuck in the 1970s.

I’m 22. I know who Sergio Aragones is and got the Cheech and Chong immediately, but what really made me laugh was Orson Welles’s head being directly beneath Frank Welker at the head museum.

I’m pretty sure that some of my Futurama watching peers wouldn’t know Aragones, but they’re not going to feel like the writers are out of touch. Especially not with the Comic Con setting of most of the episode.

[Little_Nemo]

@Spoke

@Little_Nemo

You think Katy Perry jokes are going to stand the test of time?

I dunno. Let’s come back to this thread in ten years and see if yours held up.

Sergio Aragones and Cheech and Chong may not be as famous in 2010 as Katy Perry is. But I bet more people will recognize their names in 2020 than will recognize Katy Perry’s.

Try going back ten years. How are those N’Sync and Spice Girls jokes holding up? No doubt they’re as fresh as the day they were written.

[hogarth]

References to Cheech and Chong are timeless. References to Susan Boyle and iPod commercials with silhouettes dancing, not so much, I suspect.

[Intergalactic_Gladiator]

@Little_Nemo

@Spoke

I dunno. Let’s come back to this thread in ten years and see if yours held up.

Sergio Aragones and Cheech and Chong may not be as famous in 2010 as Katy Perry is. But I bet more people will recognize their names in 2020 than will recognize Katy Perry’s.

Try going back ten years. How are those N’Sync and Spice Girls jokes holding up? No doubt they’re as fresh as the day they were written.

N’Sync? Don’t you mean N’Stink?

Bwa ha ha ha ha!

I see your point.

[Spoke]

@Little_Nemo

Sergio Aragones and Cheech and Chong may not be as famous in 2010 as Katy Perry is. But I bet more people will recognize their names in 2020 than will recognize Katy Perry’s.

Try going back ten years. How are those N’Sync and Spice Girls jokes holding up? No doubt they’re as fresh as the day they were written.

Ah, so then the only worthwhile cultural touchstones are ones from 30 years ago? There’s nothing going on today that should be satirized? Or if there is, we have to wait 30 years to make jokes about it? (You know, just to be sure.) :dubious:

[Mr.Excellent]

You know, I kind of like the references that I can tell are flying just a bit over my head - I get to look them up! And then I learn things.

I’ve made peace with my inner nerd.