Then you must have looked away at the wrong moment, in the close up of the bones you could see what was unmistakably a goat’s skull, complete with fur and horns.
Same thing, really. Who decided they would get locked in a room with 30 crossbows?
The dragon flamed the entire herd and then flew away with only one burning goat. I presume the shepherd brought in one of the other casualties to support his petition.
As Mogle said, there was a goat skull in there. But if you can’t get goat remains, how would he get kid remains? The dragon only grabbed one goat.
Someone said something at one point that got me really thinking about timescales. Something referring to years. Due to the way we watch the show it can be easy to think it happens over quite a short period of time. I guess actually knowing how long has passed will get us into “not allowed in this thread” territory.
For Brits like me he is actually one of the most well known people in the show, to the point where it almost felt like stunt casting. He was part of a comedy show called “The League of Gentlemen” that was so popular that it spawned a feature film, fronts many documentaries and not only has appeared in Doctor Who but also writes episodes. he has had quite an extensive and varied career, both as a performer and as a writer.
To be honest, GoT really is quite an “oh that’s where they’ve got to” show for Brits. Oh it’s them from “Skins”, him from “Misfits” and whatnot.
How did Sansa’s necklace with the poison end up back in Kings Landing? I missed something.
Oh, it absolutely was the plan all along. You could see the realization dawn on Jaime’s face almost immediately after the shock wore off – the sheepish, self-castigating expression of a man who made his wager before he knew the play.
As far as Tywin goes, I think people are too blinkered by their skepticism to see that, just as he’s been saying all along, his only real motive is family. He had to hold Tyrion accountable for Joffrey’s death because Cersei had convinced the public that Tyrion was responsible. If he tried to shift the blame to another party, Cersei would foment discontent in the rabble, and the Lannisters’ reputations as fair and just rulers would suffer. Trying Tyrion and sending him to the Night Watch is probably the best compromise. It’s moot now, but I’m sure Tywin was already thinking about how best to manipulate the Night Watch into granting Tyrion special privileges.
Littlefinger dropped it into the boat with Ser Dontos’ body, which presumably washed up on the shore somewhere near the city.
I heard a podcast with the writer of this episode and he mentioned that the banker’s character was written trying to channel the style and delivery of Gus Fring from Breaking Bad. After hearing that and re-watching the scene, it’s now unmistakable.
There was also the skirmish with the hill clans waaaay back in season 1, where he bashed a guy’s brains in with a shield. Which, you gotta admit, is pretty metäl.
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Re trials by combat in history, since God was supposed to cause the guilty party to lose, what happened if the wronged party lost but survived? Are there are any examples of people being open about their confusion that they know they were in the right, but God said they weren’t? Would they have to keep such things to themselves? And how many people actually believed that God really decided? According to the system, you should be able to go against an axe with a toothpick and come out victorious, if your cause is just.
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I don’t think I’ve ever run into any first hand accounts by a participant (and only a handful by third parties), but I guess they were about as confused as people are today who are 100% innocent, not even at the wrong place wrong time, but get convicted all the same. They can scream all they like, they’re still proper fucked.
The question of whether people really did believe God was involved in the proceedings is more difficult to answer - the Judgement of God, as it was called here in France, was pretty much a “nobles only” affair and contrary to popular wisdom people in the High Middle Ages were not all that credulous, at least the higher ups who could be quite educated and sharp as diamond tacks (well, many were - there were also quite a few dumb bruisers among the lot, which is par for the course when force of arms is a way to reach social status :)).
I suppose some did really believe, or at least were open to the idea, that God could make David vs. Goliath Part Deux happen at any time… but I expect they still mostly believed God was on the side of the big [del]battalions[/del]muscles. But it’s OK, because God wouldn’t have made the unrighteous mighty in the first place, right ? Stands to reason, ipso facto, QED !
I think Tywin doesn’t know if Tyrion killed Joffrey. Thing is, he doesn’t give a shit.
Joffrey was a pain and got in the way of Tywin ruling the kingdom. With someone being found guilty of the crime of regicide, regardless of the merits, they can put the whole awful mess behind them as a kingdom and move on with Tommen as their ruler. And the bonus is that the accused happens to be Tyrion who he’s always hated and who would be the one person to question Tywin’s authority and give opposing counsel to Tommen. So now he has a way to make sure he never sees Tyrion again by sending him to the Wall for the rest of his life.
Everything’s coming up roses for dear old Tywin.
That’s what happened. Jaime was trying to do something noble (and I think he did), but when Tywin accepted his offer so quickly, Jaime realized he’d planned the whole thing and wanted this exact outcome. But now Tywin has probably blown it.
At the time we didn’t know Lady Olenna was a murderer. That conversation does sound very different at this distance and it’s a great find. Is she working with Varys to oppose Littlefinger? Did she realize Littlefinger could be a useful business partner? I think it could go either way, but the scene gives you the impression she’s conspiring with Varys. Of course, she could both work with Littlefinger to kill Joffrey and work with Varys to oppose Littlefinger. No, they’re not interested in protecting Sansa as such.
He was sympathetic to the Starks, but so far he hasn’t stuck his neck out for anybody and I wouldn’t expect him to start now. He’s not a sentimental person. I think Varys and Olenna both accept that innocent people are going to die sometimes in the course of the whole Game of Thrones deal. It makes sense to save them if they are useful for one reason or another, but otherwise, saving all of these people would be a waste of your power.
They don’t trust each other. They worked together to kill Joffrey because they had a mutual interest in seeing him dead: Olenna didn’t want Margaery to marry Joffrey because he was a monster, and Littlefinger wanted to weaken the Lannisters and sow chaos. The only thing they need to trust is that they won’t screw up or spill the beans, and that’s not so hard to do. Each side knows the other is a competent killer, and they know that squealing would be suicidal. Eventually they’ll be done with each other.
The other two dragons had to eat, too. Who says one of them didn’t drop a goat carcass? Or I suppose the goatherd could have gone to retrieve it later.
When Tyrion tells Pod that Varys might stand for him at his trial Pod tells him that he has already been called “as a witness for the Queen”, it was my understand that Cersei as the accuser would be the one putting together the prosecution, not Tywin.
As was stated before I don’t think they have an adversarial system. I don’t think that the phrase “Witness for the queen” necessarily has the specific technical meaning for them as it does to us.
Didn’t Tywin say “The crown may call it’s next witness”? It looks to me like normally each side can call it’s own witnesses to testify, and then the judges question the witness. Of course, Tywin is running the whole show this time so it doesn’t really matter.
The giant horns didn’t give it away?
It’s still a big gamble though, isn’t it? Littlefinger gaining anything seems to be everyone else’s loss, especially if you’re in the position the Tyrells are in. They’re not in trouble and don’t need to grab whatever life preserver is thrown to them. Olenna knows what happened when Ned Stark made a “secret” plan with Littlefinger (although I’m sure she considers herself less naive) and she knows that, at some point, the Tyrells are going to be in his crosshairs. After the Lannisters are out of the picture, the Tyrells are his only remaining internal obstacle. In fact, I’m not sure why she would need him at all, even if he weren’t so dangerous.
Unless she already has a plan to betray him and sweep him off the board along with the Lannisters.
It’s a gamble worth taking if she wants to save her granddaughter from a psychopath, and it might just be an opportunity for advancement for the Tyrells.
Does she know that? I’m not sure anyone but Littlefinger and Ned knew about that arrangement.
Yes, she would know that. And he would know that the Tyrells might want to get rid of him when he’s no longer of use to them. I don’t think that part of the deal is uncommon or far-fetched. It’s business, not friendship.
Perhaps he was the best way for her to get what she wanted. That’d be reason enough.
Well, technically… 