Gardening problem: tomatoes

I have a problem with my garden, I’m sure some helpful person knows how to fix this.

I have some wonderful tomato plants which are just flowering and turning into tomatoes. But the flowers keep dropping off instead of becoming fruits! I see nice little florets with maybe 5 or 6 blossoms, and then I wait a week and come back, and I see only 2 or 3 of them turned into fruit, and the other flowers dropped off! What is the problem? The plants are vigorous in every way except this. I figure I’m only getting about 1/3 the yield that I should be getting. Any suggestions?

How hot does it get where you are? I remember hearing somewhere that it should get a certain heat for them to produce correctly.

Ohio State University Extension Fact Sheet
Horticulture and Crop Science
2021 Coffey Rd., Columbus, Ohio 43210-1086


Growing Tomatoes in the Home Garden
HYG-1624-92
Marianne Riofrio

One of the most popular of all home garden vegetables is the tomato. Originating in Central and South America, the tomato was thought by early American colonists to be poisonous and was not recognized as a useful vegetable until the 1800s. Eaten raw or in innumerable cooked dishes, today the tomato is an almost daily part of the American family diet. When grown as staked plants, tomatoes require a relatively small amount of space, yet are capable of producing 8 to 10 pounds or more of fruit per plant. Tomatoes are low in calories and a good source of vitamin C.

Climatic Requirements
Tomatoes are warm-season plants and should be planted only after danger of frost has passed. Temperature is an important factor in the production of tomatoes, which are particularly sensitive to low night temperatures. Blossom drop can occur in early spring when daytime temperatures are warm, but night temperatures fall below 55 degrees F as well as in summer, when days are above 90 degrees F and nights above 76 degrees F.

Soil Requirements
Tomatoes can be grown on many different soil types, but a deep, loamy soil, well-drained and supplied with organic matter and nutrients is most suitable. As with most garden vegetables, tomatoes grow best in a slightly acid soil with a pH of 6.2 to 6.8.

Fertilizer
Tomatoes respond well to fertilizer applications, especially phosphorus. Excess nitrogen fertilizer can result in plants with extremely vigorous vine growth but little fruit production. Apply 2-1/2 to 3 pounds of a complete fertilizer, such as 5-10-10, 5-20-20, or 8-16-16 per 100 square feet of garden area. Work the fertilizer into the soil about 2 weeks before planting. An additional sidedressing of a nitrogen fertilizer may be desirable after the first cluster of flowers have set fruit.

Recommended Cultivars
There are probably more tomato cultivars available to the home gardener than any other garden vegetable. A few will be named here, but it’s worthwhile talking to other local gardeners to find out what other cultivars do well in your area; or just experiment by trying one or two new cultivars each year. When choosing cultivars, keep in mind the different ripening periods.

Tomatoes are usually categorized as early, mid-season or late. Another consideration is whether the tomato cultivar you choose is determinate or indeterminate in growth habit. Determinate (D) tomato plants grow to a certain height and then stop. They also flower and set all their fruit within a relatively short period of time. This is an advantage if the tomatoes are being grown primarily for canning purposes. Indeterminate tomato plants grow, flower, and set fruit over the entire growing season.

Another characteristic to look for when choosing tomato cultivars is disease resistance. Many cultivar names are followed by one or more letters indicating resistance to Verticillium wilt (V), Fusarium wilt (F), or nematodes (N). Disease resistance can be an important consideration, especially if you have experienced these problems with tomatoes in the past.

Early: Moreton Hybrid (V), Jet Star (VF), Pik-Red (VF)(D), and Pilgrim (VF)(D).

Mid-season: Heinz 1350 (VF)(D), Better Boy (VFN), Burpee(VF), Roma (VF)(D)(paste type), Floramerica (VF), Celebrity (VFN)(D), Red Star (VFN), Market Pride (VF)(D), and Mountain Delight (VF).

Late: Supersonic B (VF), Ramapo (VF), Supersteak (VFN)(D), Mountain Pride (VF), Beefmaster (VFN).

Yellow and Orange: Jubilee, Sunray (F), Lemon Boy (VFN).

Large vine with small fruit (not suited to cage or container culture): Small Red Cherry, Large Red Cherry, Red Pear, Yellow Pear, Small Fry, and Sweet 100.

Dwarf vine with medium fruit: Patio, Pixie. Dwarf vine with small fruit: Tiny Tim, Presto, Baxter’s Bush Cherry.

Establishing the Plants
Due to their long growing season and temperature requirements, tomatoes are set out as transplants in Ohio gardens. In central Ohio, the last spring frost date is about May 20, and tomatoes may be planted anytime after this.

When purchasing tomato transplants, choose those with straight, sturdy stems about the thickness of a pencil. They should have 4 to 6 young true leaves, no blossoms or fruit, and be free of insect pests and diseases. Plants in individual containers or cell packs experience little or no transplant shock and become established quickly.

Tomato plants will develop roots along the stem and may be set deeply at transplanting with the first set of leaves near the soil surface. If transplants are in peat pots, remove the rim of the pot or be sure the rim is below the soil surface, so that the soil ball will not dry out. A soluble starter fertilizer, high in phosphorus can be applied at planting time. Use according to label directions.

Tomatoes grown unstaked are usually planted 3 feet apart in rows 5 feet apart. Plants to be staked are planted 2 feet apart in rows 3 to 4 feet apart. Plants to be caged are planted 30 to 36 inches apart. Stakes and cages should be placed at planting time or soon after so as to not disturb the roots. Unstaked plants should be mulched with clean straw, black plastic or some other suitable material to keep the fruit off the ground and prevent rotting.

Where space is limited or soil conditions poor, tomato plants can be grown in containers using a disease-free planting mix. Most any container is suitable as long as drainage is provided. Pay special attention to water and fertilizer needs of container-grown tomato plants.

Cultural Practices
Once the tomato plants are established, apply a mulch to conserve moisture and suppress weed growth. If weeds do appear, they may be pulled by hand or removed by shallow cultivation. An even moisture supply is important, especially once the tomato fruits begin to develop. If the soil becomes too dry, blossom-end rot can be a problem. If too much water is applied at one time, ripening fruit may split.
Staked plants are usually pruned to a single or double stem and periodically tied loosely to the stake with soft twine. Pruning is accomplished by removing all the branches or “suckers” that grow from the leaf axils, leaving only the main stem or the main stem and one additional branch near the base. Unsupported and caged tomatoes may be left to branch normally. Staked and pruned tomatoes produce fewer but larger fruit than caged or unsupported plants.

There are numerous insect and disease problems of tomatoes that space prohibits describing in detail here. If problems arise, contact your local Cooperative Extension office for identification and control recommendations.

The author gratefully acknowledges the work of James D. Utzinger, on whose fact sheet this is based.

I don’t know if it is still sold, but you used to be able to buy stuff in a spray can that was supposed to prevent blossom drop. Check you garden supply store.

The Ohio State University Extension Fact Sheet mentions blossom end rot a result of dry soil. I thought it was related to insufficient calcium.

Seeing as you still get some fruit, which is going to be bigger because fewer fruit=bigger fruit, you’ll come out even.

Blossom-end rot is a problem of calcium distribution in the fruit of a tomato or pepper plant. It has to do with water because calcium is carried solely in the xylem (water carrying system)and can’t be distributed to the far end of the fruit if the plant lacks water.

As far as the OP, it is likely either too hot or too dry for your tomato plants, especially if the nights stay warm. Don’t worry, when the weather cools off a bit your plant should produce new flowers.

Hope this helps.

This sounds close to the problem, but the blooms aren’t rotting, they pop right off at the abscission layer. The plants don’t seem to be too wet or dry, I watch them pretty closely, and we’ve had pretty mild weather here in Iowa, just getting into the 90s for the first time. These plants produce blooms pretty continuously through the growing season, but half of them drop off. I just can’t figure it out.
BTW, I have peppers too, and they don’t show any similar problem dropping blooms.

Usually too much nitrogen does that…partial drop.

Hmm… I’m just using plain old Miracle Grow, its 15-30-15. If I recall, the first number is nitrates, so it doesn’t sound like too much nitrogen. Maybe I should try something else.

Oops, didn’t mean to confuse the issue. I was addressing Yeah’s question for blossom end rot. That only happens to fruit, not flowers.

About the flowers dropping:
The heat itself is the likely cause for flowers dropping off. There’s really nothing you can do about it except making sure the plants have enough water. Once the weather cools down, the plants should stop dropping flowers. As for the peppers, heat usually doesn’t bother them as much, so they can keep their flowers in weather that causes tomato flowers to drop.

How about trying the blossom drop prevention spray? (Or is it fruit set spray?)

Man, am I glad I am not growing tomatoes! I just go to the store and buy as many as I like. Capitalism works wonders!

’ I just go to the store and buy as many as I like.’

Yes, if you like to eat cardboard flavored ones.

Wow, you mean that the stores around you actually have tomatoes with flavor???

And may I add, Chas.E, that I’m jealous… I’m not even close to getting blossoms yet on mine.

It has been my experience that tomatoes that are refrigerated become mealy and lose a lot of their flavor. That might explain store bought tomato blandness. There is nothing quite like a sandwich made with Merita bread, Duke’s mayonnaise, black pepper, and slices of a freshly picked home-grown tomato.

Edlyn and I will have ours soon!

It’s not really a problem, unless it drops all of them without setting.
Plants tend to be a little self pruning.
The plant supplies like a pipeline to the strongest, and cuts off the branches that ain’t gonna make it.
Sends the most support to the best possibility of survival.

If your only losing 2 or 3 outa 5, and the others that set and are now growing, no problem.
Under even the best care and conditions, you’re still gonna get some blossom drop.
More water might help, especially if your plants are leggy rather than bushy, and pinching back the leaders early definately helps it develop better water pipelines for fruit feeding.
The plant will select for you the fruit most likely to develop, and drop the rest.

happy growin’, ain’t nuthin’ like home grown

There are several reasons why storebought tomatoes are inferior.

  1. Most are picked while green and artificially ripened with gas.
  2. They start to evaporate water the moment they’re picked, and partially dry out.

Now here’s a couple things that will surprise you:

  1. I HATE tomatoes. They turn my stomach, they’re too acid for my taste. I just like to grow them and give them to my friends.
  2. These particular tomatoes are growing on my deck in 12 inch pots. I have to water them every day and fertilize them about every other week, but they grow better in pots than any crop I’ve ever grown in the ground. Everyone is astonished at my deck garden, especially when they see my pepper plants! I always have the biggest and best tomatoes and peppers around, nobody can believe I grow them in pots.

I would like to astonish my neighbors with my deck garden too. What kind of soil, potting mix, or other medium are you using? How far south are you? What variety(ies) do you grow?

What, give away my gardening secrets? Well, since you asked… Its too late for this year, but maybe this will help you out next year.

First, you must have a big sunny deck (mine is about 25ft by 10ft, not a tiny apartment deck) and it helps if it gets sun from more than one side and has an unobscured view of the sky. I’m in Iowa and I usually set plants out mid-May.
I use 12in pots for the tomatoes, and I found some 3 ft diameter 12in deep plastic tubs for the peppers. I had to drill some holes in the bottom of the tubs for drainage, and cover the bottom with some old broken terracotta potshards. I use about a half and half mix of topsoil (bought in bags at the local garden store) and planting mix. Planting mix is a sterile peat and soil mixture, you can buy it under the Miracle Gro or JiffyPot brands at most any garden store. The trick is the planting mix, which is really rich and loaded with nutrients, and has lots of peat and loam to absorb water.
I put about 6 pepper plants in the tubs, and one tomato plant in each big pot. This year I tried some peppers in 12in pots and they’re doing great. I use both clay pots and plastic pots, the plastic ones seem to need less watering since water doesn’t evaporate through the sides.
I put wire tomato cages over the plant for support, although I usually have to add extra stakes once the plant gets over the top. These plants get up to about 5 feet, and with such a small base, sometimes I have to tie them to the deck rail to keep the wind from blowing them over. Sometimes the peppers need staking up too, the stems can be rather weak when grown in pots but that doesn’t seem to make any difference in the yield.
The tomato variety that seems to do the best is Better Boy, for peppers its California Wonder, and I also have good results with Anaheim Chiles, which are a mild green bananna pepper. I’ve had good results with almost any pepper I tried, but mediocre results with almost any tomato except Better Boy tomatoes. I just buy the small 6paks of tiny plants at the local garden center.
Since I’m up on a 2nd story deck, I don’t tend to get any bugs so I don’t use pesticides (aside from exhaling tobacco smoke over them once in a while, just for a mild bug repellent). You really need to saturate these with water daily, as in hot summer weather, they dry out every day. You should let them dry out completely and then water immediately before they wilt. That’s the key, they have so little soil as a moisture reserve, you have to watch them closely. A tomato plant will suck up a LOT of water, especially in peak growing times (when it can grow 3 to 6 inches in a DAY) so I am fortunate to have a garden hose nearby. I fertilize every other week with Miracle Gro (15-30-15) although probably any generic fertilizer would be fine.
I have heard one alternate method for growing tomatoes on a deck. Get a large bag of growing mix (like a 40 pound bag), make sure it doesn’t have any holes or tears in the plastic. Set it down on your deck flat, then cut a small X-shaped slit in the bag and plant the tomato in the opening. Then punch a few SMALL drainage holes around the edge of the bag. I saw this technique on the old Victory Garden show, I don’t know how well it works but I always wanted to try it. They said it conserves water since the bag prevents evaporation.

Now if I could just get those tomato blooms to stop dropping… Oh well, I guess I get a big enough yield, I have enough tomatoes to give away to most anyone who wants them. But I keep most of the peppers for myself. Oh, BTW, I’ve tried lots of stuff like broccoli, lettuce, cabbage, cauliflower, etc, and none of them will grow in containers. Just tomatoes and peppers. Oh, and I have some nice pots of herbs too (cilantro, parsley, chives) and they grow nicely. But herbs are easy.

I prune the blossoms off my tomato plants. Especially when they are young. Makes for stronger plants.