Now I’m curious what it was. filmyak, can you e-mail me the link? E-mail is in profile.
So if you go without sex for as long as it would take for you to be prepared to have anonymous sex in a toilet, you will be prepared to have anonymous sex in a toilet? “And from this he makes a living?” :dubious:
Beautifully, ta.
Is there such a thing as a coherent gay community? If there is, could you say if it has a general view within it on these behaviours, something like, ‘ease back on cottaging, it’s gross and offensive’?
Because being unaware of cottaging’s opposition to normal get-on-with-people decorum is something I do not find easy to believe. There seems to me an agressive, in-your-face aspect in play. I know this returns to a point you have repudiated, but this is the sole part of your post from which I’m pushed on to further curiosity.
I’m truly surprised someone managed to do a thread on homosexuality in the UK without someone making a reference to Daffyd Thomas and the whole “Only Gay In The Village” thing.
Wait… :smack:
Seriously though, the idea of a Glory Hole does nothing for me (I’m not into guys, for a start), I imagine there’s quite a bit of stuff that I am into that other people would se “Man, that’s just… weird!”, so each to their own, I gues…
Excuuuuuuuuuuuse me.
Apt.
(followed by various comments of different degrees of wittiness riffing on the theme)
Actually, I would think the proper smiley to follow this would be:
:smack:
I think all men desire to have sex in public toilets (who here can say they haven’t had the urge?) The only trouble is getting straight women to go along with us. Because straight men cannot find their desired loves in the can (straight women), you dont see them engaged in public sex as much. But for a gay horny man cruising the stalls, he can easily find his preffered mate (another gay horny man), thus making public sex much more practical and acceptable among homosexual men.
Seriously though, a glory hole would freak me out, what if there was some guy on the otherside holding a shovel, just waiting to smack something?
I was thinking what if the guy didn’t hurt it, but just made it impossible to pull back out? Sounds like something a vengeful lover could do to his ex. Just leave the poor schmuck there for anyone to discover.
Illuminatiprimus, I understand the point of GHs. I just have trouble with it. But as has been said all over this thread, to each his own.
I guess it’s time for a little rebuttal: In all my former years of debauchery, I had nothing but good experiences in GHs.
And now a question for all you straight guys who are so worried about hypothetical attacks on my penis: Let’s say you meet a woman at a bar, and she winds up going home with you. How do you know she isn’t Lorena Bobbit, or someone similarly inclined?
The odds are pretty much the same.
Yeah, but at least then you have some ability to defend yourself. Or at least be able to describe the assailant to the cops.
There are always those who feel gays should assimilate and act as upstanding and straight as possible. Then again, what is upstanding and straight? I could turn on the TV right now and probably find a commercial for Girls Gone Wild and be made to watch a young woman pulling down her bikini and showing me her pixelated vagina. Would you say there are those in the straight “community” who hold the view these young women should probably ease back on some of that?
In larger cities there are always certain public restrooms and/or parks where gays have historically congregated. They really had no where else to go to congregate in any meaningful way. The police made it a regular practice to periodically raid places where gays congregate, disperse them, arrest them and publically humiliate them.
Around the time of Stonewall, gays and transgendereds finally started saying “fuck you, we’re sick of you chasing us and dispersing us and arresting us wherever we gather.”
I haven’t been back to San Diego in almost ten years but there was always an area of Balboa Park where gays cruised. If that area is still there and you needed to take a leak at one of the restrooms in that area I wouldn’t be surprised if you detected a certain arrogant in-your-faceness from some of the guys there. Basically they feel it’s their turf, always has been. At least until the cops run them off.
Cops still regularly raid public restroom and park areas where gays congregate.
Why don’t gays just open up their own bars and sex clubs? Well in larger cites they do if they can. But for lots of people, those parks & restrooms have a very long history and are still quite useful.
In summary then:
- There is not a consensus within the gay community on cottaging. Some are for, some against.
- There may be an in-your-face aspect in play.
- There remain attachments to public lavatory gay sex for practical and nostalgic reasons?
Do you mean they have the urge to have sex and on occasion a public toilet might be the only place they can have it, or do you mean they have the urge to have sex in public toilets for its own sake?
Because in theory I can almost remember a time for me when the former might have been a possibility, but if you mean the latter, **all ** men is just wrong.
I think I would add to that
-Cottaging was historically, and continues to be, potentially the only way to have sex for some people
This is important, especially for the people in question.
Sevastopol, glad you found my answers helpful. I’ll tell GHQ about my good works in this thread and maybe get some points towards my toaster (it’s an easier route than “turning” straight men )
On your point about a coherent gay community, I would actually recommend that that be started as a separate thread in Great Debates as I’d like to contribute to it and this thread isn’t really the right place for it. I may do it myself if I can be arsed… no pun intended. :smack:
I was motivated and did it myself, come join the fray people!
If there were a hole I could just stick my dick through, and expect a hot chick to just suck it for no reason, whatsoever, I might consider it.
Unfortunately, it’s got to be at least 99.999% men :mad:
Like parents tell their children when they’re frustrated by the crappy state of the world in general - just use your imagination!
And here Gene Wilder in Willy Wonka (snicker) springs to mind…