I have a thought. Maybe it isn’t traditional spam but a horrible cruel joke. Think about it, drop kiddie porn on a bunch of people’s computers. Big laughs for a thirteen year old moron.
Opal said she might have missed it and woulve have had it sit on her hard drive.
After the FOURTH hit by these unsuccessful abortions in 3 days, I am about to issue a fatwa declaring Holy Jihad upon them. Apparently they set it up on automatic on Saturday and it just keeps at it.
However this DOES allow me to quote the source/subject line as was requested earlier.
DO NOT OPEN ANY E-MAIL FROM “SARAZ@FREEMAIL.NL” WITH THE SUBJECT "NEW ILLEGAL SITE FROM DANIEL"
If the Mods allow it, here be the Internet Headers:
Even if the Reply-To were valid, I dare not attempt it as that may be an address-harvesting ploy itself.
So someone sends it from an HTTP Proxy, alleging the source to be “bwauto.com” (Borg-Warner Automotive) to a company’s server in Japan (Sun’s K) which in turns sends it to ATT, all under a username allegedly from the Netherlands…
Jaysus K. Rhyst, what a lot of effort… if it is some sort of pathetic attempt at an e-mail vandalic act, I can only pity them …
DON"T DO THIS!
“Helpful” citizens have been arrested for trying to help Law Enforcement IRT child porn (It’s been the subject of discussion on this board). Mailing it via floppy will open you up to additional Federal Postal charges. Harvest and print the header, and any non-graphic info, then delete the message, clean your cache & history, empty your recycle bin (if any), and run a defrag. Then send your info to the Feds.
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*Originally posted by Tranquilis *
**DON"T DO THIS!
This is so incredibly unbelievable! If you’ve reported it to the FBI, then it’s fairly obvious that you’re not a willing participant, but rather a disgusted onlooker who has been dragged into the situation.
What other crimes would you be arrested for trying to report?
I’m not doubting your word, but I am shocked that such a thing could happen.
Let me play out a scenario to you. You don’t like someone and want to ruin them. So you purchase some readily available spamming software, and use it to send anonymous email to your victim, including child porn (also available on the net if you’re prepared to look for it). Then you make an anonymous call to the Feds, and sit back and wait for the fun to begin.
How mad would you be if you go arrested for being spammed images that go against every moral you have??
Give me a bit, I’ll have to search it up, but it’s been discussed on this board, and IIRC, this forum.
If you mail it, you are distributing. You can go to jail. If you delete it, you are destroying evidence. You can go to jail. Wait for the FBI to tell you what to do. If they tell you to delete it, go ahead.
In my job we occasionally come across this stuff and we have been breifed on how to deal with just this sort of thing. Having a network 14,000 people, you do run into the occasional scumbag who has this on thier computer. The above advice came from the feds by way of our security who work with the feds all the time. Just by deleteing it you are comitting a crime. Emailing it to them is also a crime. You reported it, they know you have it, the first thing they are gonna do is ask you where it is, and they will be pissed it it is not still there.
Here’s your answer, although I can’t find the thread in question, I’ve got this bookmarked:
I guess that says it all.
Ah, I see bdgr has arrived. Actually, the thread i’m searching for involves a gent who notified the FBI. amd didn’t delete the file. His computer was seized, and he was prosecuted, and convicted. Unfortunately, I must be searching under the wrong keywords, as I can’t find the %*#$ thread.
The first part of this is incorrect. Report it, but do not destroy it.
Its like if you discovered a large amount drugs someone had hidden on your property. You wouldnt destroy it, and then call the cops. You would call the cops and let them dispose of it and investigate.
You didnt place it on your hard drive, someone else did.
Ok what about this:
I temporarily restore the image from it’s current zipped state so that it shows up in the email. Print the email complete with image (the image, btw, is very small… less than 150 x 150 if I remember correctly) and snail mail it anonymously to the FBI. I could even mail it from another city (I’m about to make a trip anyway) then delete all trace from my computer.
Would that work?
That would work, if you have not already notified them. While still technically illegal, its not likely to be a problem. Were it me, I would leave it just as I found it, and call the local office of the FBI and ask them how to proceed. They may even have a hotline for this. Call them from a payphone if you are worried, and just ask them what a concerned citizen should do.
Found it!
Pit thread here. Look for Jalapeno_On_A_Stick’s post, about 4/5 of the way down the page.
Supporting article here.
Dump it. It maybe illegal, but I strongly doubt you’ll get jailed for doing what any, decent, revulsed human would do, and they certainly won’t be busting you for possesion.
True, but I know I’ve read somewhere (and yes, I’m sorry somewhere is so vague, but I don’t know where I sat it, only that I’ve read it) that even if you do defrag or save over the data in question, that the FBI has ways to recover data that has been erased or saved over like 3 or 4 times. I don’t know any more past that, but I don’t doubt that they could do that…somehow. Sorry, I’m not a computer expert. Anyone else heard of this?
The originating IP was 208.50.253.2. This machine is connected to the 'net through an ISP called “Global Crossing” who are at http://www.gblx.net.
I’d suggest complaining to abuse@gblx.net. Be sure to stick “Child Porn” or something like that in the subject, I bet they prioritise on keywords like that. If it were me, I’d also cc the CEO (one Gary Winnick : try the obvious combos of winnick@gblx.net, gwinnick@gblx.net, garyw@gblx.net) and make as much stink as possible.
At the very least gblx.net will get bwauto.com (the owner of the originating SMTP server) to secure their server.
And perhaps they’ll take it seriously enough to perform a proper investigation before passing evidence on the appropriate authority.
I just got one of these today. It is gross te way they try to force this crap to peoplw who don’t want it. I just deleated it before I opened it.