I don’t think we’ve had a cite for a disease that can plausibly transmit directly from dogs to humans like that–upthread it’s noted that human roundworm can be transmitted directly from affected stools, whereas canine roundworm has to incubate in the soil for three weeks first before it’s transmissible.
It’s not just about hepatitis, ya idiot. It’s about all possible diseases. We did the worm thing already, and even that is more likely to be contracted from a baby (mainly because it’s, um, impossible to catch canine worms from a picnic table due to the life cycle of that particular helminth).
But what do you want from me? How can I prove this very basic principle to you?
This thread is terrific because I actually found myself at a bar with whole litters of dogs on tables this Saturday. Apparently we had found our way into something called a “pug party.” What I thought when I saw this was 1) “This is creepy.” Some people had their precious little purse dogs in Halloween costumes, and yes, sweaters, and one lunatic had their dogs in a stroller wearing little party hats. Wtf? 2) “Jesus, these are ugly dogs.” What I never thought was “I’m going to catch AIDS from the dog’s ass.”
If that’s truly the case, I’ll happily wind back the argument. (I’m not going to try to weigh up the relative risks fromfecal bacteria etc, as I assume that’s pretty much.a wash).u
If someone did provide citation above that there aren’t any parasitic zoonoses, then I.missed it, and I apologise for the interruption.
I honestly was operating under the impression that we were looking at a mixed bag.of some half dozen nasty transferable parasites. More than happy to be educated otherwise.
So, you admit that you purposely ignored half of the issue - diseases - and that you either didn’t bother to read or purposely misinterpreted all of the cites from others? AND that you don’t notice that you were the only one holding your view?
Okaaaay.
You might want to rethink that “babies shit sunshine and rainbows” belief.
So it does sound like a short or non-existent list of significant diseases that are transferrable. I wouldn’t count campylobacter - it’s a faeces-borne pathogen, but not a particularly special one.
I dunno, does it have to be “special”? I’d have thought the issue was the chances of getting sick. If the question is “can humans catch diseases from dog poop” the answer is “yes”. If the question is “can they catch any diseases likely to be particularly severe in healthy persons” the answer is “no”.
The really nasty parasites (hookworm, roundworm) require incubation outside of feces before infection … but you can still get sick. See also Giardia.
No, I purposely talked about parasites because that is the part that I didn’'t think was accurate. That was made very clear from the outset, and I’m sorry if it confused you.
I actually can hold these two thoughts simultaneously: Dogs and babies should not get their shit where people eat. You seem to have a problem interpreting that.
ETA: Still not totally convinced that babies in the U.S. would transmit parasites at a greater frequency than dogs. But I’m open to data/cites.
What I meant is that Campylobacter is just one of the collection of standard, food-poisoning-type diseases you could expect to catch from fecal contamination of any kind (Also to include Salmonella, E.coli, Clostridium perfringens). Campylobacter isn’t notable, IMO, in the way that multicellular or protozoan parasites are.
However, I’ll give it one more shot. Let’s look at Giardia
OK, but you can get it from dogs right? Sure, but… the etiology is:
Is that good enough for you? The most common mode of transmission of the most common parasite in the US is person to person contact, with diapers being especially risky.
