Ghost Sighting On Tape

Yes you did. You said you “knew” ghosts were real because you had “seen” them. Hallucinating ghosts does not equal knowledge.

If you’re not going to back up your absurd assertions then please refrain from making them in this forum.

Can you even define exactly what a “ghost” is?

I didn’t think so.

Why would you enter a debate if you have nothing to contribute, either factually or argumentatively?

We insist on concrete proof because we are trying to fight ignorance.

You hurl that “atheist” charge like you think you’re making a point. A lot of us are atheists or agnostics but not all of us.

Even the ones who do believe in God would not try to assert as fact that “God exists” in a debate thread, though.

So you are saying that the Holy Spirit is a ghost? As in some dead person’s spirit? What is your basis for that? It seems to me that the Holy spirit is considered something unique and non-duplicated, just like God is considered to be. Thus, the Holy Spirit cannot be used as a template for believing in ghosts any more than God can be used as a template for believing in Zeus.

I am not an atheist, although I find them much easier to debate with, than a “believer”.:slight_smile: I believe in G-d. The Holy Spirit is not a ghost as in Booo waaaa. IMHO it is just a remnant, a reminder of G-d’s presence. It is a feeling not a spooky looking creature. I absolutely question the existence of ghosts. If I try to make factual claims about G-d here in GD, instead of just stating that it is my personal belief; I will get busted by the same people who called you on your ghosts.

If you don’t want to be challenged, stay out of the debate forum. You seem shocked that people aren’t just swallowing your assertions whole. If you’re so confident that yopu’re right then make an argument that can’t be so effortlessly refuted as what you’ve presented so far.

I don’t believe in God or “Holy Spirits.” There’s no inconsistency on my part.

The Bible is evidence of nothing, by the way.

To add on to what IWLN said, there is a world of difference between “I know” and “I believe.”

We end to leave “I believe” alone because it is unfalsifiable and does not lend itself to factual debate. Anything you assert as fact is fair game.

Jesus was a person. He died. He was resurrected. He is his ghost. If you can’t debate the existence of God in this debate, then what are you doing debating the existence of ghosts?

I said before:

I guess Blake likes beating a dead horse because this horse is dead. He said “The fact that no evidence exists against ghosts does not support chicksdigscars’ extraordinary assertion that they do exist.” I never said it did, honey.

Read that again. The fact that no evidence exists against ghosts does not support chicksdigscars’ extraordinary assertion that they do exist.

I never said that the LACK of evidence against ghosts proved their existence. I said I saw ghosts.

And for the record, IWLN suggested only one definition of ghost. Why can’t all ghosts be remnants of their owner’s former presence? Someone asked for a definition of ghosts. That is my definition: remnant of the former owner’s presence. Not the “BOO” kind of ghosts that IWLN referred to.

Possibly.

If he did live, then yes.

You’re not seriously thinking this is just going to be accepted, are you? We’re back to where we were with the ghosts.

DUH!! To John Mace. I once again thought I was offering a rebuttal to Joe Random when he said that the Holy Spirit was just “some dead person’s ghost.”

So what is the relevance of the fact that no evidence exists against ghosts? Why mention it?

After you’re done proving Jesus was “resurrected” why don’t you explain exactly what this “remnant” consists of? What is it made of. Where is it located in the human body? What physical properties does it possess?

You haven’t really defined anything you just gave it a different name.

How do you know that what you “saw” was not a hallucination?

How do you know that it was a “remnant” of some dead person?

How do we know that you’re not just making shit up?

Sure, I will do something that scholars have been trying to do for thousands of years. And when I am done proving Jesus was resurrected, I will find a cure for cancer.

I am sure there are others who will happily quote Scripture to show that Jesus was resurrected, but it will go over your head.

Uh, someone is going to have to prove the Bible is factual first. Could you start with cancer, then Jesus?:rolleyes:

I asked if you believed that, not that I thought it was true. (In reality, I believe in neither ghosts nor the Holy Spirit).

What does one have to do with the other? Are you implying that, if one believes in God, one must believe in everything?

I’m honestly not following your line of reasoning. At first, I thought that you were implying that the Holy Spirit was a form of ghost, and thus believing in the HS would require you to believe in ghosts in general. Is that what you were getting at?

Look, cdc, even a fellow Christian is rolling her eyes at you over that one.

I am quite well informed about the Bible, probably much better than you would expect from a Godless agnostic.

The Bible is not proof, though.

Let’s leave aside the resurrection thing (I assure you, it can’t be proven).

Let’s just try to nail down your definition of a “remnant.” What is it made of?

She just doesn’t get it does she?

chicksdigscars you can not support your assertion that ghosts exist with a source like the Bible that is at least as dubious as the assertion itself.

Okay DtC, take that back**!** The only true part of your statement is that I’m rolling my eyes. The rest I’m denying.(ouch!)

Sorry, IWLN. I didn’t realize how far you had gone in your recent reevaluations of your beliefs. :slight_smile:

Me neither. :confused: But yes, it’s true.