She bumps into him at the beach later I think. I must unearth it and give it another read.
I came back to add that despite finding the lead character loathsome, I think GW is a brilliant film and have the DVD.
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Mild sidetrack to say that I love the Cheap Suit Serenaders in-joke.
Enid asks Seymour if the CSS record is any good, and he says “No.”
The joke is:
a) Seymour is very similar in some ways to R. Crumb, who is in the CSS, and drew that album cover;
b) Director Terry Zwigoff is also a very long-term member of the group, and is depicted on the cover with his cello;
c) the album is in fact very, very good. (I have all of the CSS records.)
You can’t reference that without a link! I added one for you. You’re welcome.
Seymour was essentially a self-portrait of the director, Terry Zwigoff, and Enid is the type of girl he is attracted to, if what Robert Crumb has written about Terry is true.
Crumb and Zwigoff are very similar obsessives, which may be one of the main reasons their friendship has endured. But their tastes in women are very different - Crumb famously being attracted to physically powerful women and Zwigoff’s ideal being a “bad high school girl”.
I don’t. 2001 wasn’t that long ago.
Thank you! Very interesting, I didn’t know this. Seymour’s and Crumb’s record geekery led me to assume there were other similarities.
Crumb and his wife Aline Kominsky used to publish an underground comics magazine called Weirdo, and Terry was a regular early contributor. I’m away from my collection, or I’d look up some specific cartoons that Robert drew featuring Terry.
If you find any of them, could you possibly put a couple online? On the CSS cover he has TZ looking kind of like young Albert Einstein.
My whole Crumb collection is back home in Chicago. I really need to bring it down here to Kansas City, where I spend most of my time these days (sadly). One of my favorite of Zwigoff’s contributions to Weirdo was a several page article about collecting Valmor products.
Any relationship with Steve Buchemi is inherently creepy.
IIRC, the Seymour character in the movie is a composite of two different minor characters in the comic, a record collector and a man who placed a “Missed Connection” ad in the paper. I think the record collector shows up more than once, but Enid does not become friends with or have sex with either of these men.
Buscemi is more famous. Graphic novel based movies are more popular. And people would be astonished that Scarlett Johansson plays a secondary character.
As to the OP. Enid is creepy. Seymour is creepy. Just putting them in the same room is double creepy regardless of what they are doing.
What, Buscemi is more famous now than he was in 2001? I don’t think so. He’s been a hot property ever since Fargo (1996). He was not some unknown in 2001.
He was famous but I think he was still a character actor. Boardwalk Empire has made him into a headliner.
I’m still not convinced he would be taken differently in that movie if it were made today.
I don’t either. It’s always hard to be too certain on hypothetical questions like this because every work is a product of its own environment.
I just rewatched Ghost World and the relationship struck me as creepy, particularly, I’ve noticed certain nuances about Seymour that made me question his innocent nature early on. In the Birthday scene, while he has his eyes open and Enid is holding a bday cupcake, when he first opens his eyes he looks right up at her as if he had hoped she would be undressed to some capacity. Instead, disappointed, he lowers his gaze upon the cupcake she’s holding. His early inquiring into whether or not she has a boyfriend and then showcasing jealousy over Enid’s interaction with Josh is also troubling. He is by far a far from innocent outcast here. Not buying it anymore! :smack: