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I got 97/100. I missed 45, 72 and 80. I feel 87 was very subjective though, even though I knew what answer they wanted.
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87? You must have meant something else. 87 asks you to name one Indian tribe.
And 45? Did you mean some other number for that as well? Name two political parties? (Democrat and Republican)
[QUOTE=Liberal]
87? You must have meant something else. 87 asks you to name one Indian tribe.
And 45? Did you mean some other number for that as well? Name two political parties? (Democrat and Republican)
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Perhaps the poster’s answers to 45 were “RecessFest and the annual Capitol Rave”…
That was a weird test. And I wonder why they ask them to name an Indian tribe-- is that just trying to make it sound like we’re just one big, happy nation? I’d think a question or two about the various Indian wars and/or some of the shameless things we did would be more appropriate. And asking how many members there are in the House or Representatives is absurd-- the exact number has no real significance. Maybe a better question would be to ask which Chamber has the greater number of Congressmen in it.
As for the OP, I’m not finding any outrage. What he said is true and I think it’s a very mainstream view. You needn’t be a xenophobic anti-immigration type to think that.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
87? You must have meant something else. 87 asks you to name one Indian tribe.
And 45? Did you mean some other number for that as well? Name two political parties? (Democrat and Republican)
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Sorry, forgot to note that I had done the current test, not the new question one listed. I did the old one because it doesn’t have the answers right there in the test.
[QUOTE=Fear Itself]
In an attempt to appeal to a get-tough on immigrants sentiment in Republican voters, Rudy Giuliani is fond of pushing a “speak English” policy for immigrants in his stump speech:But apparently that does not extend to Florida voters of Cuban descent, who Rudy is all too happy to court with a Spanish language campaign ad.
Way to go Rudy, do as I say, not as I do.
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I don’t really see a contradiction there. One can take the position that one should be able to speak English while they’re in America, without necessarily taking the position that they shouldn’t speak any other language.
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]
Well, possibly because it might be healthy to encourage, among prospective naturalizees, an interest in the heritage and history of the state they wish to become citizens of?
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While I certainly agree with this, it struck me as a bit odd to be asking about the role of a specific charity. Unless that’s the answer…
[QUOTE=GorillaMan]
While I certainly agree with this, it struck me as a bit odd to be asking about the role of a specific charity. Unless that’s the answer…
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Well, which Cabinet Ministries or Departments are responsible for the administration and upkeep of historically- or culturally-sensitive sites, other than the CoE?
While I wouldn’t vote for Rudy or any other Republican if one had a gun to my head in the voting booth, I heartily concur with the notion that people who want to live in this country should have a working knowledge of English. And I don’t care what country it is they come from or what language they spoke there. Be it Spanish, Polish or Kalihari click-language, if you choose to live in America, learn some English.
[QUOTE=Otto]
While I wouldn’t vote for Rudy or any other Republican if one had a gun to my head in the voting booth, I heartily concur with the notion that people who want to live in this country should have a working knowledge of English. And I don’t care what country it is they come from or what language they spoke there. Be it Spanish, Polish or Kalihari click-language, if you choose to live in America, learn some English.
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People who move to the US generally do try to learn English. In some places, there aren’t enough ESL classes to meet demand. Immigrants to the US are generally aware of the various advantages to be gained from learning English.
That said, I completely disagree with your post. I think people should speak whatever they damn well please.
[QUOTE=Really Not All That Bright]
Well, which Cabinet Ministries or Departments are responsible for the administration and upkeep of historically- or culturally-sensitive sites, other than the CoE?
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English Heritage is just one body directly supported by the Department for Culture, Media and Sport.
Having a national language is so 19th century. I say fuck it.
[QUOTE=John Mace]
As for the OP, I’m not finding any outrage. What he said is true and I think it’s a very mainstream view. You needn’t be a xenophobic anti-immigration type to think that.
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The outrage should come from the fact that he is spreading a lie. So, either he’s doing it on purpose (to win points with xenophobic anti-immigrant types) or he or his staff is too stupid to vet the requirements to become a citizen. Which is also scary.
[QUOTE=niblet_head]
The outrage should come from the fact that he is spreading a lie. So, either he’s doing it on purpose (to win points with xenophobic anti-immigrant types) or he or his staff is too stupid to vet the requirements to become a citizen. Which is also scary.
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When Guiliani was mayor of NYC, did he abolish all signage in languages other than English? I’ll bet some of his ancestors shopped with people who spoke Italian; even after they learned some English, they liked the little local shops. Of course, their kids learned English. And moved to the suburbs.
[QUOTE=Jamaika a jamaikaiaké]
That said, I completely disagree with your post. I think people should speak whatever they damn well please.
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I think people should speak whatever they damn well please too. But they should also understand that if they choose not to speak the dominant language of the country they’re choosing to live in, not everyone is going to bend over backward to accomodate them.
[QUOTE=Otto]
I think people should speak whatever they damn well please too. But they should also understand that if they choose not to speak the dominant language of the country they’re choosing to live in, not everyone is going to bend over backward to accomodate them.
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100% in agreement with this. Even within the US, accomodations of that sort must be made. When I was in Minnesotta, I had to be mindful of the fact that a toboggan is not something you wear on your head.
[QUOTE=niblet_head]
The outrage should come from the fact that he is spreading a lie. So, either he’s doing it on purpose (to win points with xenophobic anti-immigrant types) or he or his staff is too stupid to vet the requirements to become a citizen. Which is also scary.
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What was the lie? I’m not sure how you get that from a one-liner quoted by the OP without any context or a link to where the quote came from.
BTW, what happened to the OP?
[QUOTE=John Mace]
BTW, what happened to the OP?
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Waiting for something worth commenting on.
[QUOTE=Fear Itself]
Waiting for something worth commenting on.
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How about explaining why there’s a contradiction between his stated position and his political campaign? He never said candidates shouldn’t pull out all the stops to reach all the voters. You’re creating controversy where none exists.
[QUOTE=Otto]
I think people should speak whatever they damn well please too. But they should also understand that if they choose not to speak the dominant language of the country they’re choosing to live in, not everyone is going to bend over backward to accomodate them.
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I’ll also agree with this 100%. No, you shouldn’t be forced to learn and speak English, but not speaking it should not be allowed as an excuse to plead ignorance when it comes to things like filing your taxes, getting a driver’s license, going to a public school. IMHO there should not be available US IRS tax forms in multiple languages, driver’s license written tests in multiple languages, public school teachers required to be multilingual, etc.
[QUOTE=Hampshire]
I’ll also agree with this 100%. No, you shouldn’t be forced to learn and speak English…
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Can you clarify? Are you saying there should be no English language ability requirement to become a US citizen? That statement is a bit confusing.