Are you serious?? They’ve made entire movies about this! Do we need to cite the entire Operation Cyclone?
This seriously bugs me. You intend to have a serious discussion about 9-11/Al Queda and you don’t even know that the mujhadeen/Al Queda are basically a creation of the CIA and Pakistini ISI??? Do we really have to start at such a basic level?
Other fun facts:
The covert relationship never ended. US and British Intelligence service continued training the Al-Queda linked KLA up until 2000! Again, to fight against the Russians as a U.S./MI6 proxy. This is, of course, after the USS cole, and WTC attack take 1. My question on this matter has always been… exactly when did western intelligence services really break with Al Queda? In that light, I now have an easier time accepting that the CIA did meet with Osama in June of 2001 at an American hospital on Dubai, as has been reported many times all around the world.
And speaking of the 1993 bombing, here is a video from CBS news detailing how the FBI knew of the plot, had an informant in the group, and was “planning” to replace the actual explosves with fakes, but someone higher up decided not to. This would probably have been covered up but for the fact that the informant recorded all of his interactions with the FBI. Woops. Here is a NY Times article about the same.
Afghanistan offered to turn over Bin Laden to stop the indescriminate bombing of it populace. Bush refused.
Bush Family/Bin Laden links. While others called for cites, I won’t even waste my time. For example, it was major news of the day when and why Bush evacuated all the Bin Ladens from the US, even while all aircraft were supposed to be grounded.
Wargames on 9/11. The greatest coincidence of all are the war games that happened to be ocurring on 9/11/2001. It’s quite mindboggling. Wikipedia lists a few but not this one. Simulated Hijackings! Airplanes crashing into buildings! Phantom planes on radar, etc. These distractions/diversions might have been all that was needed to slow down/restrict the NORAD response. This further impeaches Rice’s initial 9/11 incompetency defense on 5/16/2002 “I don’t think anybody could have predicted that they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile.” You were supposedly preparing for it on that very day!
Further standdown evidence… Video here of Rep. Lee Hamilton interviewing Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta. With flight 77 rapidly approaching Washington and the Pentagon, after repeated updates to the VP, a WH aide was getting more and more agitated, Cheney snaps “of course the order still stands”. Presumably the order was to shoot down the plane, except we know that it was not shot down, it was allowed to continue on it way, into the most heavily defended airspace in the world. Now I guess we know what the “order” actually was, and why not countermeasures were taken. Watch the video for yourself.
Rumsfeld announced on 9/10/2001 that 2.3 TRILLION dollars missing from the Pentagon. That’s not mere billions, but TRILLIONS of dollars! That’s how many times the entire DOD budget?? And it’s unaccounted for and untrackable - basically lost??? Hear it from the horses mouth here or in a CBS news article. Of course, we never hear about this again.
The 9/11 Commission farce. Bush’s initial vehement opposition. Attempting to appoint Kissinger to run it! The administration limiting and cutting the funding, opposing a needed time extension, opposed turning over the presidential daily briefs (we know why after hearing about the 8/6/01 brief “Bin Laden Determined To Strike in U.S.”). Rice initially refused to testify. Bush would only testify with Cheney next to him, not under oath, no transcript, secret hearing.
Here are some
[quotes for the commissioners themselves!]
(http://www.911summary.com/)
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission (Thomas Keane and Lee Hamilton) said that the CIA (and likely the White House) “obstructed our investigation”.
The co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission also said that the 9/11 Commissioners knew that military officials misrepresented the facts to the Commission, and the Commission considered recommending criminal charges for such false statements, yet didn’t bother to tell the American people
9/11 Commission co-chair Lee Hamilton says “I don’t believe for a minute we got everything right”, that the Commission was set up to fail, that people should keep asking questions about 9/11, that the 9/11 debate should continue, and that the 9/11 Commission report was only “the first draft” of history.
9/11 Commissioner Bob Kerrey said that “There are ample reasons to suspect that there may be some alternative to what we outlined in our version . . . We didn’t have access . . . .”
9/11 Commissioner Timothy Roemer said “We were extremely frustrated with the false statements we were getting”
…and on…and on… and on.
I generally find myself skeptical of “conspiracy theories” until I’m given some hard evidence of inconsistencies and outright lies. There’s nothing close to this much evidence in, for example, the JFK assassination. But in the face of all of the above, I have to admit that something fishy is seriously going on - without even considering some of the more controversial aspects - free-fall collapses, nano-thermite, warnings from foreign governments, obfuscated investigations, etc.