They’ve done too much to this country in the name of 9/11 for it to be alright that the definitive EVIDENCE, not interpretation, theory or supposition of what happened on those planes is either being secreted away or has never been found. If they’ve never been found, why the hell isn’t someone STILL looking for them.
So you think the black boxes not being found has something to do with the fact that the planes crashed into skyscrapers? I googled “plane hits building” and got 246,000 hits. I googled “airplane black box not found” and got 274,000 hits. I’m now at page 10. Not one hit actually talks about a case of one not being found without the qualifier “as yet.”
I don’t know how the demolition was set up. I also don’t know if you’ve ever had a job before but most people go to their cubicle and other specific places that pertain to their job at work. At no point during the day would like the average person get up and go have a look around the building to see what is going on.
My point in cutting and pasting that article was to bring up the fact that NOBODY knows whether or not the black boxes have been found. Not to segue into an examination of Bellone’s character. I don’t give a fuck if he’s writing a book or not. I’m not going to buy it.
None of these questions matter to you? You know what you saw on television and that’s enough. Maybe you’re just not a suspicious type of person and after I’ve killed my husband in some gruesome fashion, I’d love to have you on my jury.
And I still think the alien mutant chipmunk theory has not been debunked, making it at least as viable as the controlled demolitions one (which has been)…
Box made of titanium in a plane crashes into a building that fell into its own footprint. All the debris is removed post haste. Box not found eight years later. :dubious:I remember seeing on TV a documentary about them finding a black box buried underwater years after a crash by following the ping it gives off. That random plane was more important than BOTH planes that hit the towers and not only haven’t they been found but heck is the point of looking for them?
Or maybe…the scorching heat from the jet fuel burning melted them like it did the steel building core and supports.:smack:
Typical. You latch on to the one thing in this thread that you think supports you and ignore the rest. Ignore the fact that your source who claims to have seen the black box has been totally discredited. Ignore the fact the the recorders are not made from some magical substance and can be destroyed just like anything else on the plane. What do you think is on it? You think it will prove that the planes didn’t bring down the towers? How?
So…as we all know, the government can’t do anything efficiently or well, but when the government DOES act with incredible efficiency, well, it has GOT to be because of an absurdly complex conspiracy?
Of course, one wonders why one of the conspirators didn’t point out, “If our goal is to start a war in the Middle East, shouldn’t we avoid creating a situation where we pretty much have to go to war in Afghanistan first? Also, why are we making all the hijackers Saudis, when we don’t want to go to war with Saudi Arabia? Couldn’t we stick at least one Iraqi on the damn planes? I mean, the way we’re going, we’ll need a whole 'nother excuse a couple of years down the line if we want to take out Saddam.”
ETA: Just noticed: Fish and 42fish: coincidence or conspiracy? You be the judge!
And furthermore, if the goal was to fake up a connection between the 9/11 hijackers and going to war in Iraq, why didn’t the simply invent some evidence of it? Holy crap! I could have designed a conspiracy better than this.
Just get out Microsoft Word and write a letter that says, “I, Saddam Hussein, authorize you, Osama bin Laden, to blow up shit in the United States. Long live the glorious God, down with Satan America.” Easy.
And yet, and yet there’s no evidence for the connection. Despite the massive alleged conspiracy, secretly planting bombs to blow up the WTC, concealing the evidence, planting the Indestructible Passports, hiding the black boxes, coordinating thousands of people and billions of dollars, there’s no smoking gun.
I mean, what the fuck. The most basic element of the conspiracy got lost in the shuffle? No way.
Seymour Hersch just said that the Bush Administration had an assassination squad. I heard it talked about one day on cable, never heard of it again. How many people would have had to be involved in something like that? At what cost? How could something like this be done in secret?
Where did that come from? There’s plenty of footage of 9/11. :rolleyes: You lost me.
QUOTE=Fish;11168578]…c) comb through millions of tons of wreckage disposing of, covering up, destroying, or concealing evidence of step 5a,
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What did happen to the evidence then? The plane reconstruction, testing the steel, the blueprints of the building even - what happened to all of it?
By showing them what happens to Truthers and putting them on notice that: “You’re either with us or against us…” Maybe I’m the only one that remembers America circa 2002, 2003 and the craven cowardice and idiotic complacency of the media.
Hilarious! We’re having a discussion about that right now and similar discussions are all over the internet. All over the internet following the same pattern. Someone expresses disbelief in the official line. Some Poetry Hound type with the freedom to sit at a computer all day and rebut every single nonbeliever immediately starts calling them silly, delusional, crazy, paranoid or part of the “Blame America First” crowd. Invariably, someone else throws in “You’re disrespecting the victims by even saying you don’t believe what the govt said!”
How do you know they haven’t come for me? Are you telling me I’m the one person in all of America that can’t be traced by ISP number back to an internet service provider who used my name and social security number to set up my account? And that because I haven’t had a garbage bag thrown over my head and gotten thrown into a van and disappeared then the govt hasn’t “done anything” to me? I think there are many many many levels of coming for someone.
No. Not at all. My theory is that this was a military grade operation and the people who did this KNOW how to do this type of thing. There’s a very low probability because people are conditioned to think along a certain line. Theres a bunch of videos on Youtube of people who were there saying they heard explosions, they saw the weird things, they heard things, whatever. There’s pilots, architects, engineers, scholars, etc saying the official story is garbage. Actual people who know about this type of shit and would actually know what does and doesn’t make sense. There are videos of other buildings burning, other buildings hit by planes, other building brought down by controlled demolitions. The Average Person dismisses them. People have been trained to think on a sixth grade level and they not only lack curiosity, they’re scared of thinking outside of the box unless its sexually or in another way that society encourages.
“But what about the shock and awe? What about the hearts and minds of the American people? We need to give them something to believe in. They need an arc! They need action, adventure, romance and intrigue. But keep it under two and a half hours. They’ve got very short attention spans.” Someone else said.
I don’t know where you got the idea that I believe the government doesn’t do anything efficiently or well. The government does what it sets out to do EXTREMELY well. They control vast numbers of people, money, and arms. All of that takes planning, strategy and efficiency.
Reread that and then watch the video of Tower 7 sliding down into its own footprint.
And explain why it buckled into the center and didn’t topple over to the weak side that was allegedly missing 10 stories. I was watching the coverage of 9/11 all day. I saw the coverage of when WTC7 fell. They NEVER mentioned any 10 story crater. Google dailynews and new york post stories about it and you won’t find any mention till Nov 2008 when this explanation debuted.
Also, do you know that was Guiliani’s bunker? And that it wasn’t evacuated until way later that afternoon? I think the 9/11 timeline says they left there at two-ish.
Also, keep up. He said the evidence had to be cleared away because IT IS A PUBLIC AREA and that businesses and residents had to come back quickly. I said to him it’s STILL cordoned off and that is proof that there was no need to rush through an investigation because eight years later there’s STILL NO PUBLIC ACCESS to it.
What do I expect to find? The black boxes for one.
“As the tower peeled open, it easily tilted over to reach building 7.”
LMAO. My favorite clip on the page is the youtube video right above the drawing. It says the tower took 100 seconds to fall. Then it shows a video of a mechanical tower **at the top of the building falling first **which makes NO SENSE if the progressive collapse was caused by damage to ten stories at the bottom of the building.
Did anybody see the towers “peel open”? Can they send me a link to that footage?
He’s been discredited. Now that’s typical. His being discredited thusly explains away that the black boxes have never been found.
Ignore the fact that they were made from titanium and the towers were less than a mile high. And that the rubbish has been cleared away but no black boxes have been produced. Let’s focus instead on the man who said he was there when the boxes were found and the fact that he’s writing a book, which is proof in and of itself that he is evil.
The boxes have been found. What’s on them might need “debunking” though:D.
You continually oversimplify things, like the fact that the boxes were part of planes that crashed into buildings at high speed and were then trapped in fires that burned for hours before the buildings collapsed on them.
Why would what’s on the black boxes need to be suppressed anyway? Maybe it’s just a failure of imagination on my part, but I don’t see how the black boxes are going to record much of anything beyond “The plane I’m in just hit a large object and now I’m in the middle of a fire.” And I don’t see how the black boxes would prove that a controlled demolition was done to bring down the Towers. Please enlighten me on this. Thanks.
He said the evidence had to be cleared away because IT IS A PUBLIC AREA and that businesses and residents had to come back quickly. I said to him it’s STILL cordoned off and that is proof that there was no need to rush through an investigation because eight years later there’s STILL NO PUBLIC ACCESS to it.