Giving up television

When we moved cross-country almost 7 years ago, we couldn’t find a good place for the TV in our new, smaller apartment, so we got rid of it.

My husband and I both work full time and our kids are in school and after-school care until 5:00 every weekday. They are still pretty young and go to bed around 8:00. We have dinner and baths and homework and storytime to get through. I can’t really stay up myself much past 10:00. After the kids go to bed is really the only time my husband and I have together. Weekends are for chores and errands and fun stuff outside. When would I have time to watch TV? The only time I’ve really felt the lack was when I or the kids were home sick and didn’t feel up to reading.

I may have to reconsider when the ultimate version of The Lord of the Rings comes out, but until then we have no plans to get a TV.

Two years ago, matt_mcl and I lost our TV. It was a combination VCR/TV, and our other roommate got a tape stuck in it. matt_mcl and the other roommate tried to fix it, and wound up destroying the thing altogether.

I went through withdrawal. Quite seriously. I sat in front of the thing sometimes, looking at a blank screen.

Finally, it wore off. When I next had money to spend on luxury goods, we went with a DVD player for my computer. Anything worth watching can be rented, and you get it without commercials. Also, renting something is kind of an event. It’s not the sort of thing you do at the end of a day just because you’re exhausted.

I have so much more time, now. I read a lot, and I’ve already worked out several versions of my novel, and I have a few short stories in progress :slight_smile:

If you’re watching DVDs, you’re still watching TV, and you’ll still have the same problems that you had already. The problem isn’t in the tube, it’s in you–if you haven’t developed the discipline required to finish a project on your own, turning off the tube isn’t going to help.

I fail to understand why so mnay people in this thread seem to be so addicted to televiosn that they have had to get rid of it entirely so they won’t be tempted to watch. It is not unlike the man who recently sued his cable company because they inadvertently gave him 4 years of free cable, which he blamed for making him smoek and drink and gain weight.

We have digital cable television, but my partner rarely watches TV (except for Skinemax at night to check out the nekkid guys) and I only watch specific shows, like American Idol and The Daily Show. I keep it on as background noise when I work out, and then I read, go to the library, cuddle with my bf, play with the cats, and so on.

I attacked my teevee with a golf club getting on for a year and a half ago, been a really interesting experiment since then.

I tend to think that’s it’s healthy to think of teevee as an addiction, just as much as, say, nicotine or alcohol. And just like those two, I say to myself I’m still addicted but just not partaking in my addiction at the moment.

Sounds grim but it works well for me and reminds me of the harsh reality (on those occasions when I get tempted).

Teevee’s a funny one, though; more pernicious and subversive than nicotine and much more difficult to completely “give up”. For example, you learn quite quickly that teevee shows are social currency; they’re at least some of the common ground between friends and lovers – people gossip about soaps or sitcoms like they used to gossip about workmates or neighbours. And you’re no longer a part of that. You’re excluded and have to find other common ground.

Even silly things like catchphrases create an inclusive/exclusive vibe.

That’s just the kinds of things you can look out for.

On the upside, well, there’s so much; all those extra hours . . .and it’s amazing how much less tolerant you become of dumb advertising when not watching the idiot box in the corner.

I took up guitar again and go to the cinema more often. I do a lot of things more than I did before, as well as some new stuff. But what I do isn’t that interesting to you.

It’s a lifestyle shift, you do what you want with, maybe, 20 more hours a week . . . it’s a lot of time.

Good luck. But remember, you’ll likely always be an addict, you’re just not watching it at the moment. IMHO, of course.

I didn’t have a TV to watch from 1976 until the late '80s. So I guess it ceased to matter what was on, because I wasn’t going to get to see it. Whatever aired during that period is something I can’t discuss with anyone, as I’ve never seen most of the programs that are etched into the national consciousness. It’s not as though I haven’t seen anything from that period, but I couldn’t watch often enough to get addicted to a program.

Of course my wife and I have a TV and cable service, but she watches mainly anime DVDs that she collects, and we watch something on the Food Network or Comedy Central as we have dinner. Neither of us watch anything in Prime Time on any of the big networks. Otherwise, I never watch it, because it doesn’t occur to me. I’ve got plenty of other things to do. The few things I have seen in passing that are on now do not appeal to me at all.

I think we both find the internet more interesting than television. Maybe I’ll ask my wife whether she thinks it’d be acceptable to stop getting cable TV and just have cable internet. We’d save about $50 a month, which is currently just being wasted because we aren’t using the service.

i never had a tv (financial reasons) from 1985 until 1993. i actually preferred it that way, not being interested in any shows that were popular during that era - plus, advertising has always been one of my pet peeves. during my marriage, my husband provided tv and cable. then back to no tv until 1997 or so, when i got a tv, an antenna, and tuned in to the x-files every friday night for a blessed couple of years. this began a tv era, which resulted in my daughter slowly becoming couch-potato-like. then, two months ago, our satellite tv got turned off, and we have not looked back - there is no antenna installed either.

now, our family does activities together, my daughter and i have started making a quilt, and household chores are a communal activity. i admit that i am responsible for allowing my child to become addicted to tv and for not setting reasonable limits. i recommend shutting down the tv for anyone, though. it gives everyone more time for what is important - each other. i don’t expect we will ever get the satellite dish re-connected. anybody need one?

I agree with most of your post, but beg to differ about this detail. Going out and renting a movie is active consumption. Watching teevee is just passive.

I have a few shows that I follow: West Wing, CSI. The local station just started Buffy S.1, so I download the eps of Angel and other stuff I find interesting. The tv is in my living room, but I spend most of my wake time out with my dog, with friends or in the spare bedroom/den. I have a smallish tv in the bedroom, that comes on with the morning news so I get that for 10 minutes every morning while waking up.
As long as I have other interesting stuff to do the idea to turn on the tv just isn’t there. I do check the schedules though, to see if there’s something I want to catch, but there rarely is.

“I grew up watching TV and I tumed out TV.” (you know SOMEBODY had to use that line)

I enjoy TV. I don’t watch nearly as much as I used to. There’s only a few shows I watch on a regular basis (Simpsons, 24, Enterprise, Frasier this season).

I also read, listen to music, and play around on the computer. I’ve also started teaching myself to play bass. I know several people who aren’t into TV. It’s certainly a personal choice.

The only problem I have with that is when people who don’t watch TV get arrogant about it.

I’ve heard lines like, “TV? I don’t even own a TV.” Like TV is some evil cancerous beast. There are plenty of people who are addicted to TV so it’s not much different than anything else you can become addicted to.

When people ask you about, just say, “Nah. I don’t watch a lot of TV, I don’t have time.”

You aren’t lying and you don’t sound like a jerk that way.

We went without TV for about 2 years. Cable was too expensive and broadcast didn’t pick anything up. It wasn’t too bad, we found other things to do. We got cable because we saw some cool shows when we went to TN, like Monster House, American Chopper, and Monk, so we don’t watch a lot of it, but there’s some good stuff on. I just can’t stand the snottiness of many of the people who do the “I don’t OWN a TV” thing. I’m sorry, I like relaxing on Sundays while watching the game and I missed it during those two years we didn’t have it. And now we’re getting a TiVo, so we can watch ONLY stuff we want when we want it.

I’m 40 years old and I’ve never owned a TV. My parents decided that no TV was the punishment for bad grades. So from the age of 11 on I listened to the radio and read. 30 years later, I listen to the radio or records and read. My wife didn’t have one growing up so it’s never been an issue for us. If I want to see a sporting event, I go over to a pal’s.

However, I waste a tremendous amount of time. I just do it lying on the couch reading and listening to the radio instead of watching TV. There are plenty of ways to waste time; choose yer poison. My way, to my mind, is a lot more peaceful though. No laugh track or commercials or flashing lights and colors and suchlike.

Funny thing is, whenever my wife and I are around a TV that’s on, we both are drawn to the commercials in a terrifying way. We’ll literally crank our necks to watch them. Those things are evil!!

I have almost entirely stopped watching TV. I came to the realization that there aren’t many good TV shows on worth watching, so I stopped. Granted, I’ll still watch The Simpsons, or Mail Call, or CSI or a few other shows, if I happen to in the TV room at the time, but that happens very rarely.

Of course, the reason for this is that I now spend most of my time doing things on the computer, and therefore don’t have enough time to watch TV. So I’m not sure (nearly) giving up TV will really make any difference in my life!

Well, we had The Talk. And we’re all for it. But his family is coming down next weekend, for three days, and the idea of the very first weekend we go cold turkey coinciding with the presence of two restless teenagers is too much to bear, so we’re postponing cancelling the cable until then.

The current plan: Give up cable. Hook up the antenna for national emergency news and such. Subscribe to NetFlix. Eat dinner at the dining table, instead of the coffee table in front of the TV. Do more stuff.

I think that’s about as specific as we’re going to get. If we put grand schemes in place for what we’ll do with our spare time, we’ll just wind up frustrated. I appreciate all your posts, and the encouragement that’s come of them. The big tips I’ve gotten so far are, IMHO:

  1. Give it up.

  2. Don’t be obnoxious about giving it up.

  3. Have stuff planned for the first few days, so the cold turkey isn’t as bad.

I actually went without TV for most of 1988-1993, as I was living in a tent most of the time. But I’ve never given it up when it was readily available to me. I remember the effect that essvee was referring to; the magnetic irresistible attraction of TV screens you’re not watching. It took a while to wear off when I returned to civilization, I recall.

The movies stay; I’m not becoming Amish, I’m just trying to reclaim wasted time. Besides, movies are an event with us; we argue about which to watch, we turn the lights down, deploy SnuggleSpace[sup]TM[/sup], turn off the lights, and watch. It’s much more involved than just flipping on the tube and seeing what’s on.

Should be fun.

People who know me would be shocked to find me posting to this thread, because I have the TV on most of the time, I own a ton of DVDs, and I have every episode of MST3K ever made (just about). However.

Last summer, I had to housesit for my sister, who’d just built a house out in the boondocks. Cable wasn’t available in her neighborhood yet, and I couldn’t pick up broadcast. So I went for 4 months or so completely without TV, for the first time. And I really didn’t miss it at all. When I moved back to civilization, I looked at the cable prices and realized I had no desire to pay that much money just for TV. Nowadays, I have broadcast TV, DVDs, and my computer. As I said, I have it on quite a bit, but I’m very rarely sitting down and watching it and doing nothing else. 90% of the time, I’m on the computer with the TV on just for background noise…I DID find my sister’s house very quiet, and I got tired of my music collection fairly quickly.

I’ve found that I can take the money I would have spent on cable, use it to buy DVDs, and have more than enough stuff to watch on those occasions when I really do want to sit down and watch something.

I wish I could say that I’ve suddenly become more productive and written a novel and composed a symphony and built a working model of Big Ben. I haven’t. I still waste a phenomenal amount of time, but I think I do so in ways that use my brain a bit more.

Being that Mr. Ujest is a big sports fan and we cannot get adequate TV reception in our area, we have to have cable/satellite.

I watch possibly 2 hours of TV a week. I haven’t watched ER in 6 years or Friends in about 4. (I was surprised to see Fraiser and ER still on.) and have watched about 20 miutes of Everybody loves Raymond. Which I really like, and like the fact that it is in re-runs, as well. (Re-runs, IMHO, are like the Greatest Hit Collection of a band. Proven track record that they have something goign for them. That way I don’t invest lots of time into a series that ends up tanking the first or second season ( like Titus or Max Headroom.)

But, I declare TV free days around here and the kids know that the TV is not turned on at all and we play and interact most of the day. ( They play really good by themselves and together.)

What frightens me is how people automatically leave their TV on all day, but don’t watch it. Apparently they need background noise. Don’t they own a radio? Or if there is a party and everyone is busy eating at the table, there is the TV, droning on from it’s stand, no one watching it.

*This Drives Me Nuts. *

So, I will always get up and quietly turn it off.

And the outrage from doing this is scary.

I have said, aloud at said party, " It’s not like I am unplugging Grandma from life support. It is an inanimate object. I mean, *really *."

I applaud any one who can unplug the TV and get on with life!
Bravo!

I also equate too much TV watching or obsessiveness about TV with depression and apathy. It is all my brothers did or do with their lives and when one is afraid or can’t get involved with life. ( This is why I make fun of Trekkies so much, because that was my brothers’ favorite show and I knew why they liked it - living vicariously through the show- but frankly, to this day, it just reminds me of their depression and helplessness. They lived through the characters.)

The days/weeks I don’t watch the Electronic Pacifier I get so much more done and I feel like I am *living * rather than just existing.
However, being able to join into the watercooler conversations about American Idol is something too.

There is a fine line.

I have been thinking of cutting off my cable for quite a while now. I usually have it on in the background, flip through the channels, roll my eyes, put the mute on and get on the computer. I watch much less TV than I used to and frankly cannot justify the expense of cable to myself.

In most aspects of my life, if there is a unnecessary expense, I tend to cut it out. However with TV, I find it difficult to do. I woudn’t get rid of my TV because I do enjoy my DVD’s.

I only have basic cable, but the monthly charge is about $45! Frankly it is not worth it and maybe this thread will encourage me to go ahead and try living without it for a while.

We don’t have a tv. There’s no space, neither of us really watch tv, and we didn’t want to waste money on something we wouldn’t use. My father has the tv on practically all day, every day, and I’ve always hated it, in a pretentious, snob-like fashion, because he could be doing something like woodworking or cooking, and instead chooses to watch other people cook and woodwork (to woodwork? I have woodworked?) ahem, and do woodworking for a thousand hours a month.

So I have tv issues.

This doesn’t mean we have any more time- we do have a computer. Eventually, we’ll get one and a dvd player so we can watch movies, but we’ve got more than enough things to do that waste time pointlessly to leave any time for watching tv.

“Did you notice I called it television and not TV. TV is a nickname. Nicknames
are for friends, and television is no friend of mine.”

–Mr. Show

I wouldn’t dream of giving up TV! No more Daily Show? Simpsons? Antiques Roadshow? Old movies on TCM? Nightly national and local news, with weather reports?

Feh. I don’t watch all that much, maybe an hour or two every other night. But I’d rather give up the Inernet than TV (I know that’s heresy around here . . .).

We have a 13" color set that for years was the only TV in our house (I now have a TV tuner card in my desktop PC, and we bought a portable TV/VCR combo for the kids to watch in the back of the van before a really long car trip last year). We’ve never had cable or satellite, so broadcast channels are all we get. Which is fine by us, since we almost never turn it on after I get home from work. The kids will sometimes watch PBS shows before school in the morning, or if they’re out of school for some reason, and they may watch Arthur or Zoom when they get home, but they’re as likely as my wife or I to turn it off if there’s nothing on they actually want to watch. I will say that having some external factors compelling you to give it up or cut back makes a big difference.

I got out of the TV watching habit back in seventh grade. My dad was working on finishing his college degree, and his desk was in the living room where our TV was. He had enough trouble with organic chem without having the tube on as well, so we were essentially banished to our rooms; my parents gave me a cheap compact stereo (turntable, AM/FM tuner, 8-track deck) for Christmas that year, and I basically went into my room and came out when I graduated from high school. I still watched stuff on weekends or late at night on occasion, but watching TV was no longer the default option for how to spend my evenings. In college, I don’t think we ever had a TV in the dorm room (couldn’t get cable and broadcast reception sucked). After college, I had no money to spend on a TV; I did inherit a 9" B/W box from my family, that I used to watch Braves games on TBS (a broadcast station here in Atlanta), but I certainly wasn’t going to pay for cable to hook up to that, and it hardly seemed worthwhile to get a VCR either.

My wife, on the other hand, was a TV junkie until she moved to Taiwan for a year. She and her roommate there had a TV, but since their Mandarin wasn’t very good, there weren’t many options for things to watch, so she got out of the habit. When she moved back to the states, she consciously decided not to buy a TV. She spent most of that year telling her fifth-grade students “No, I didn’t see that last night; I don’t have a TV,” which they found so unfathomable that her three classes chipped in about $5/each and bought her the 13" TV we still have as an end-of-the-year gift.

After we moved in together, we did get a VCR and rented movies occasionally, but we have such different tastes that we rarely could agree on things to rent, so we just continued not watching much. After the kids came along, we did have PBS on a lot of the day, and we’d get videos of cable shows they liked (Blues Clues, mainly) from the library. There were a few shows my wife made an effort to catch (West Wing, mainly), but since we rarely had the TV on at night, she’d forget and miss them as often as not. I still like to watch baseball games when I can, but since MLB has made the Braves cut back their broadcasts on TBS, I probably only see parts of one or two games a week, if that. There’s a DVD player in my computer, and my monitor’s bigger and sharper than the 13" TV we have, so I sometimes rent DVDs (I’ve even bought a handful) to watch, mainly when the family’s out of town. I do admit that I’ve been having covetous thoughts about a larger TV for the living room a lot over the last few years, but I also have to admit that there are lots of things we’d get more use out of to spend the money on.

Also, with three small kids (all under 7 years old), I honestly don’t know where other people with kids find the time to watch every night. By the time I get home from work, we have dinner and clean up, it’s usually 7:30 or so, meaning we have at most an hour before it’s time for the kids to be in bed, a lot of which is taken up with getting them baths, changing into pajamas, brushing teeth, reading stories to them, etc. The time after they’re asleep and before we go to bed is the only time during the day for my wife and I to catch up with each other and do any of the other stuff that needs doing – I usually stay up until 1:30 or 2 am catching up on e-mail, playing music, or doing other little projects, and still never get around to half the things I want to do. If I watched TV until 11 pm, I’d get even less done.

I have to admit, however, when I travel on business and am by myself in a hotel room with a TV with cable or satellite, I often end up just staring at the TV most of the night, staying up way too late flipping through the channels or watching whatever crappy movie’s on HBO. I think because I spend so little time doing it at home that my resistance to it is weaker, because I really do get sucked into it when it’s there, and find it tough to tear myself away.

So welcome to the world of the under-TVed. I think you’ll like it. I know we like having the $4200 we estimate we’ve saved over the seven years we’ve been in our house by not paying for cable during that time ($50/month x 84 months).