Glee season four (open spoilers through most recent US broadcast)

I’ve noticed that some of the other shows discussed here (e.g. Community) now have one discussion thread for the season rather than one for each episode, and I feel like we’ve reached the point where Glee doesn’t get so much attention here as to require multiple threads. So I thought that instead of starting a thread for “Guilty Pleasures” (episode 4x17, US broadcast date 3/21/13) I’d start a thread that could cover that plus the remaining five episodes left in the season.

From this point on there will be open spoilers for anything that’s been broadcast in the US.

Previous *Glee *threads from this season:

Glee Returns (covers episodes 4x01 and 4x02, “The New Rachel” and episode “Britney 2.0”, US broadcast dates 9/13/12 and 9/20/12)

Glee 9/27: “Makeover”

Glee 10/4: The Break-Up

The characters on “Glee” are dumber than boxes of rocks. (Not an episode thread, but contains discussion of episodes 4x06 and a little on 4x07, “Glease” and “Dynamic Duets”, US broadcast dates 11/15/12 and 11/22/12.)

Glee 12/6: “Swan Song”

GLEE Christmas Episode - 12/13/12

Glee 1/24 Sadie Hawkins

Glee 1/31: Naked

Glee 2-14: “I Do”

Glee 5/7: Girls and Boys on Film

I think that’s all of them. There were several episodes that didn’t have a thread.

Starting with the next post, open spoilers for “Guilty Pleasures”.

Going back to at least early season three, maybe even season two, there have been times when I thought “If next week’s Glee is as bad as this one then that’s it, I’m done with this show.” That’s how I felt after “Feud”. It’s not that the episode was 100% awful, but the more I think about it the more it seems that the scene where Finn beat Rachel’s gigolo boyfriend Brody senseless is the worst thing this show’s ever done. I don’t just mean because it made no sense (Finn just teleported to NYC?) and was weirdly out of place on this show (it seemed like a couple of pages from a Law & Order: Special Victims Unit script got mixed in with a Glee script by accident), but I felt they crossed a line morally by suggesting that it is noble and heroic for a man to violently assault his ex-girlfriend’s current boyfriend. But this being Glee, I figured there was a chance either this would all be magically undone by this week or that Finn would be facing severe consequences for his psycho, criminal behavior.

For a good portion of “Guilty Pleasures” it seemed like much of what happened last week had been magically undone or forgotten. Santana was living with Rachel and Kurt again, and while Rachel still didn’t know that Brody was a prostitute for some reason Kurt now suddenly believed Santana. Back at McKinley, Finn and Mr. Schuester were nowhere to be seen. (Will’s absence was attibuted to the flu; no one seemed to care where Finn was.) There was also no reference to Finn 2.0’s mysterious online friend or Blaine’s plan to take down the Cheerios, although he is clearly still on the squad as he was in uniform most of the episode.

Really I felt this was for the best. The early part of this episode worked pretty well for me, with some fun scenes both at McKinley and in Kurt/Rachel/Santana’s apartment. Sam and Blaine kept the glee club going for a week, and did a better job than either Finn or Will have recently. Their “Guilty Pleasures” assignment was basically just season one’s “Bad Reputation” and none of the choices really made sense for characters ages 15-18 but seemed more the guilty pleasures of someone 2-3 times older, but whatever. I’ve put up with far worse this season, and the songs were reasonably fun. We also finally saw Kitty get called out for her bad behavior and Kurt and Santana’s interactions as roommates were great.

However, when the episode suddenly started making a big deal about how bad it would be to do a Chris Brown song, I became uneasy. When Glee starts getting preachy like this, it often means the show is about to do something incredibly stupid or offensive. Sometimes I’m sure the writers do this on purpose, other times it seems like they’re sincerely going for a moral but botch it horribly. For instance, there was the Michael Jackson tribute episode where we learned that if you have a taped confession from the person who attacked and nearly blinded your friend, it is wrong to go to the authorities or even your friend’s parents with this information.

This week I think the deliberately offensive thing was having Puck 2.0 sing a Bobby Brown song instead of a Chris Brown song, but this barely even registered with me. I was distracted by how, after multiple characters made a big point of saying how awful it was that Chris Brown was so crazy and violent and how Rihanna shouldn’t have gone back to him, we were shown that Rachel finds it charming and romantic that Finn – who, lest we forget, is the one who broke up with her nearly a year ago – traveled 600 miles for the sole purpose of beating up her boyfriend and demanding that said boyfriend break up with her without explanation. And while Rachel has not yet gone back to Finn, I think there’s little chance that she won’t.

Aside from being awful and disturbing, from a narrative perspective this whole violent Finn thing seems totally unnecessary. This episode would have been almost exactly the same (some parts would even have made more sense) if Santana had hidden Kurt in the bathroom last week to prove to him that Brody was a prostitute and get him on her side. Things would have been different, but better, if Santana had hidden Rachel in the bathroom so she could learn the truth directly. But best of all would have been if this show hadn’t decided to waste so much of the season on destroying Rachel’s character and sticking her with boring, pointless, horrible storylines. As much as I’ve disliked the 2.0 characters, the past couple of episodes they’ve managed to be fairly entertaining. Thinking back over the season to date, what really would have improved things would have been cutting pretty much every Rachel storyline. Instead we got three episodes about her non-existent pregnancy while Kurt has been reduced to a background character who gets a few lines per episode.

Their treatment of Finn and Santana’s behavior is one of the few things the show has done to actually offend me. In “Feud” I thought that Brody almost came off as a good guy, due to his obvious shame in working as a prostitute and his being mercilessly stalked and threatened by Santana and then beaten up by Finn. And he couldn’t do anything about it without revealing his secret to Rachel. It was a actually a sad situation and Santana and especially Finn came off as creepy white knighting bullies.

So to have Rachel smile at the thought of what Finn did and then fucking thank Santana for trying to run her love life behind her back through threats of blackmail… not only is it morally repugnant, but it’s out of character. Rachel doesn’t need people to take care of her, and the strong independent Rachel Berry I know would have told Santana so. Help Rachel by telling her what she knows about Brody? Sure. Sneak around and threaten him without Rachel’s knowledge? Hell no. Why did Santana even randomly tell Rachel about Brody’s secret in this episode and not, say, in “Feud” when she could have then made her own goddamn informed decision about their relationship?

“Guilty Pleasures” otherwise, for the most part, was merely unremarkable and a bit fun at times, but that bit just tanked the whole episode for me.

The breakup scene with Brody was actually decent, but far too short and shallow. Now that Brody has finally gotten somewhat interesting, they don’t allow any further development, they don’t allow him to tell his story, and they pretty much just use him as a tool to get Rachel thinking about Finn again. They allow him to be sympathetic not because of his shame of working as a prostitute but because he knew that Rachel slept with Finn, a much less interesting reason.

Now every time I see Finn with Rachel I’ll be thinking of him standing over Brody’s battered body, growling out “Stay away from my future wife!” It’s the least flattering portrait of Finn the show has ever painted, but they don’t seem to want us to think that.

I’m not that bothered by Santana’s actions, just because the show has always portrayed Santana as selfish, manipulative, scheming, short-tempered, and judgmental. She’s occasionally used her dark powers towards a good end (e.g. her dealings with Karofsky in season two), but I don’t feel we’ve ever been asked to believe that Santana is a nice girl who sometimes gets carried away. Instead she’s a crazy bitch who occasionally means well, and Rachel and especially Kurt both know that about her already. I felt it was in character for her to ferret out Brody’s secret and confront him about it, particularly since she blamed him for getting her kicked out of the apartment. I also think it would have been in character for her to blackmail him into breaking up with Rachel or expose him to Rachel and/or Kurt. I didn’t buy that she’d call Finn (someone she’s never even liked) and ask him to fly out to New York to beat Brody up. It just doesn’t make sense, either logistically or for her character.

Finn on the other hand has always been depicted as a basically decent guy who sometimes makes dumb mistakes, not as the sort of man who goes around beating up prostitutes or getting all “If I can’t have her, no one will!” about his exes. Heck, his scene with Brody came shortly after a scene where we were encouraged to believe that Finn is a swell guy who’d make a great schoolteacher! Since Finn was AWOL this week I still hold out some hope that he’s either in jail or a mental hospital right now, but Rachel’s reaction to hearing about what he’d done suggested we are supposed to view his behavior as justified and heroic. Barf.

What’s been particularly weird about this whole Brody-as-gigolo storyline is that it’s been treated by everyone as basically just Brody being dishonest. Since, according to Rachel, they had a non-exclusive relationship then his sexual fidelity isn’t even really the issue. As you say, the whole thing was explicitly equated with Rachel lying about having sex with Finn while she was in Ohio. There’s been little acknowledgement that prostitution is illegal, and no acknowledgement that Brody was putting himself and Rachel at a higher risk of STDs. So the big mystery for me is why the writers bothered to make Brody a prostitute in the first place. Having him be a high priced escort for wealthy, attractive, slightly older women is perhaps the least plausible thing ever to happen on a show that’s full of implausible things. Revealing that Brody was, say, still sleeping with the mean Kate Hudson dance instructor could have led to basically the same breakup and would have made a lot more sense. Since Kate Hudson gave him a job as her TA just before having sex with him and since we saw in “Feud” that he still has this job, their continuing sexual relationship could even have been shown to be financially motivated.

You’re right, and my problem is less with what Santana did and more with Rachel’s reaction to it. I could understand Rachel not being surprised at Santana’s actions, since she does know her pretty well, but thanking Santana and accepting her as Rachel’s guardian angel was too much. I don’t think that Rachel would do that.

If this had been resolved through Santana hiding Kurt, as you suggest, or even Rachel in the bathroom at the end of “Feud” rather than Finn, it would have solved several problems. Rachel could have gotten the news earlier and had more of a chance to act as her own agent based on Santana’s intelligence.

Plus we wouldn’t have had to see Finn cave Brody’s face in.

That’s something they’ve just never sold, either. While Finn has had a couple of promising moments as a teacher (mostly in “Swan Song” and, to a lesser extent, “Dynamic Duets”), he wasn’t nearly as successful in the role as the show would have us believe.

Yeah, the way they set it up suggested that it was going to be a lot more interesting than just “Brody lies, Rachel gets mad,” but that, for the most part, is all we got. I’d suggest that maybe they aren’t done with it yet, but from what I know about Glee, I really think we are. Five more episodes is little enough time to deal with the entire rest of the competition season (which I still wish had stayed dropped), much less more Brody the Hooker shenanigans.

I suppose we’re meant to understand that his leadership ability will translate into success as a teacher, but with the exception of the pilot episode, I’d say Finn’s much talked about talent as a leader has been largely an informed ability. This season I’d say Sam and Blaine have done as much to keep the glee club going as Finn, and without inexplicably kissing any faculty members or beating any sex trade workers.

I am guessing that this season, like season one, will end with Regionals instead of Nationals, but even so it does seem like there’s a lot that must be either wrapped up or totally abandoned in just a few episodes. There will presumably be some developments regarding the Rachel/Finn, Kurt/Blaine, and Will/Emma relationships, and there’s also Rachel’s audition for Funny Girl, Blaine’s audition for NYADA, the class of 2013 senior prom, at least one competition episode, Sam and Blaine’s scheme to bring down the Cheerios, and whatever that Catfish plot with Finn 2.0 is. This late in the season I’m assuming that seemingly important plot points from earlier in the year, like Burt’s cancer, will never be mentioned again.

In fairness to Glee, the last few episodes of season three were much better than “Choke” and “Prom-a-saurus” had led me to expect, and they even did a pretty good job of resolving the Coach Beiste subplot that had been handled so badly in “Choke”. It’s possible the writers may pull off a similar feat with season four, which is why I’m sticking around for now, but I wish they wouldn’t dig themselves into these holes to begin with.

I’ve been hearing rumors that this season will actually end before the end of the 2012-2013 school year and that part of season five will cover the rest of the current academic year. But I’m hoping this is either completely untrue or that everything will be wrapped up in the season five premier, if only because if the writers were willing to split a school year across multiple seasons then they should have done so with the original group of McKinley students. I don’t know that I’ll be watching season five (although I’ve threatened that before), but I would have been happier with a season four that was the spring semester of Rachel, Kurt, Finn, etc.'s senior year.

He left last week. Remember his scene with Marley where he was cleaning out his office?

Guys beating up other guys is a different thing than guys beating up their girlfriends. Maybe it shouldn’t be, but it is.

Anyway, I have to say is little Puck does a killer Bobby Brown. First performance I’ve gone back and rewatched in ages.

I also think there’s a huge difference between doing Bobby Brown and doing Chris Brown in that Bobby Brown’s not a current artist. He’s a washed up has been and most of the nastiness of his life with Whitney came out after his career had already pretty much sputtered out. Meanwhile Chris Brown is still recording and has a legion of delusional fans, and he’s still being actively propped up by the music biz.

I know he left McKinley – and apparently hopped on the next flight to NYC – but where is he now? The last we saw of him he was leaving the hotel room. “Guilty Pleasures” didn’t reveal where he went from there. If he didn’t go straight to either his mom/Burt or a mental hospital for help then I’m going to be disappointed.

Incidentally, while this is a very minor point I do kind of wonder who paid for the damage to the hotel room. I guess Santana, since she booked the room.

Finn beating up Brody is different from Finn beating up Rachel in the sense that Brody had a better chance of defending himself, but I don’t see a great moral distinction between Finn beating up his ex-girlfriend’s current boyfriend in order to scare him away from “my future wife!!!” than in Finn (hypothetically) smacking Rachel around for choosing Brody over him. While we’ve never seen Finn strike a woman, if I were Rachel then after this incident I would not trust him not to turn violent during a disagreement. This wasn’t a drunken bar fight or some unexpected situation where Finn was badly provoked. It was Finn making a special long distance trip to lie in wait for his ex-girlfriend’s boyfriend and intimidate him into leaving her because Finn thinks that he should be with Rachel instead. That’s scary crazy.

I’m skipping over all the posts to ask a question. Finally, after being increasingly frustrated with Glee I let my DVR do the watching. I now have 6 eps waiting for me - is it worth going back to?

StG

Maybe?

There were definitely some good bits in the last six episodes, but also things that are likely to frustrate you. My feelings about this season as a whole are going to depend largely on how certain storylines work out in the five episodes that remain, so if you can wait that long and your DVR can handle it then maybe you should wait until the end of the season.

I can say that in the past couple of episodes I’ve found the newer McKinley students to be surprisingly tolerable, much more so than earlier this season.

I suspect if people didn’t take GLEE so seriously that they would enjoy it more.

The whole premise of GLEE is so over the top ridiculous that I expect some continuity issues.

So many of the main and minor characters are parodies of stereotypes that the writers have got to take some shortcuts or no story lines would ever progress.

But… taking Glee too seriously IS how I enjoy it!

I would enjoy Glee more if it didn’t take itself so seriously.

On a lighter note, I can’t believe Glee introduced a plot where a character turns out to be a gigolo and DIDN’T take this as an opportunity to have someone sing “Just a Gigolo”.

This is of course a pretty old song (late 1920s) even by the standards of Glee, but the David Lee Roth cover (video mildly NSFW, song starts at about 1:30) was a top 20 hit in 1985, so that’s more recent than several of this week’s songs.

Thinking of both songs from the mid-80s and Glee taking itself too seriously, Blaine’s performance of “Against All Odds” this week was…odd. This being Glee I’m willing to accept that whenever Blaine has a confession to make that he fears will damage one of his interpersonal relationships he sits down at the piano and sings about it in front of a large group of people. But this particular choice of song, the manner in which it was performed and filmed, and the obvious parallels to Blaine’s “Teenage Dream” performance back in “Break Up” gave his schoolboy crush on Sam a lot more weight than I felt it deserved…especially since until now it had seemed like Blaine got over his crush soon after the Sadie Hawkins dance. I mean, it’s one thing to notice that your platonic buddy is a handsome guy or to entertain private thoughts regarding his ability to suck the chrome off a fender, and quite another to start singing Phil Collins ballads at him through your tears.

Blaine did claim that he was singing with Kurt in mind, and the lyrics fit that situation pretty well, but the way the line was delivered and the way he, the camera, and the other kids kept looking at Sam during the song strongly suggested that he was lying.

Yeah. The series has been pretty ridiculous from the beginning. I understand a lot of the criticism, and even agree with much of it. But I’m not much bothered by it. I still enjoy the humor and a lot of the performances.

Tonight’s episode of Glee opened with a viewer discretion warning saying it would be dealing with the topic of school violence.

I have no doubt this very serious topic will be dealt with in the mature, tasteful, and sensitive manner that I have come to expect from this program.

The actual “gunshots heard at McKinley” portion of the episode wasn’t as bad as I’d feared – heck, I’m downright relieved it didn’t involve a troubled transfer student named Jeremy – but what was the point of it? Was this all just to give us a moral about gun control? Because while I’m actually very strongly in favor of stricter gun control laws, this message were presented in what basically amounted to a PSA dropped into the end of the episode. It didn’t really connect with the lengthy “lockdown in the choir room” sequence at all.

It’s been less than four months since the Sandy Hook shooting, and while I wouldn’t argue that school shootings should be totally off-limits for Glee I do feel that if this show is going to deliberately remind me of a bunch of recently murdered little children then it should at the very least be in the service of an interesting, coherent story and not just a sleazy attempt to seem topical and edgy.

If the show is really getting rid of Sue (which I doubt) then there were plenty of other ways that could have happened, and the covering-for-Becky twist was obvious the moment Sue said that no student would be expelled. The scene in the choir room seemed well done while it was happening (although I did snicker at the Blair Witch-ness of the cellphone confessionals), and I even got a little choked up at Quinn 2.0 assuring Rachel 2.0 that no one would hurt her lunchlady mom because everyone likes her. But in retrospect the whole thing strikes me as an empty exercise, like Glee wanted to show it was capable of doing a serious, suspenseful dramatic sequence but couldn’t be bothered to make it actually mean anything.* No one was ever really in any danger, and the only plot development that resulted from the choir room scene was the extremely predictable revelation that Finn 2.0 is being catfished by someone in the glee club. We didn’t even find out who it was, because apparently this show needs at least three episodes for every ridiculous contrived mystery the writers can dream up. In fact, we didn’t learn anything new at all about any of these characters. Kitty confessed to the wardrobe-tampering trick we already knew about, and everyone else loves their parents, current boyfriends/girlfriends, and glee club. Big deal. We could have gotten to basically the same place by just sticking with the silly “Let’s humor Brittany about the asteroid and use this week to confess our feelings and practice for Regionals” plot introduced at the beginning of the episode.

I did think it was funny that no one even mentioned the absence of Sugar and Dreadlocks from the choir room until afterward (actually, I think only Sugar was mentioned – I guess even the other characters don’t give a damn about Dreadlocks), and the anonymous girl and boy who’d been hiding in the bathroom with Brittany were instead included in the group hug with the glee club members.

*This is similar to their handling of Karofsky’s suicide attempt a year ago, which IMHO was one of the best dramatic scenes the show has ever done but was basically forgotten before the episode was even over. But that at least was tied to a storyline that had been developing for more than a year, and was all too plausible for the character.

I get that Sue likes Becky, but quitting her career so that a mentally retarded girl who brought a frigging GUN to school is just not gonna happen on so damned many levels, not least of which being it involves allowing a retarded girl with a gun to remain in school, now without her protector.

And again, Ryan Murphy really is Brittany when it comes to understand mentally retarded people. I’ve known several people with DS over the years- my first job was working at a home for the mentally retarded- and they’re about the last population that would ever bring a pistol to school. (This isn’t to say they’re all sweet- some of them are spoiled brats- but they dont’ think like that- they don’t plan ahead or strategize which bringing a gun to school, however misguided and wrong it might be, is doing.)

I admit the scene in the choir room had some decent acting. It’s been so long since the “I took in your GREASE costumes” that I’d just assumed the dim bulb had figured it out. Oh, btw, Beiste is now in love with/thinks she has a shot at Will in spite of anything that would lead anybody, including Beiste, to that conclusion. And Figgins is still alive.
At least without the 18 or so NYC characters the students had more dialogue. Still no Chord Overstreet naked, though, and that hope is the main reason to keep watching.

ETA: There was a storm where I live and the last five minutes of the DVR’d show were cut off for a “live report” (yep, that’s what a storm looks like on radar, I’ve seen one before), so I assumed that Finn 2.0’s mystery catfish was revealed (probably to be Unique) and I missed it, but apparently not.

Sampiro - Nope, no Catfish. Its one of the Glee people, though, because of the phone buzzing in the choir room.

See, this is why I’ve come to hate Glee. Lord Tubbington stuff was fun. Then we get a really, really dramatic piece that let the characters act well during the gun scare. However - Glee is supposed to be a LIGHT show, not so damn intense. And It keeps covering issue-of-the-week, and making characters act out-of-character.

And Sue? I wished they just let her off the show last year, so I could remember her gleeful evil, and imagine her at home with her baby. The shit they’ve done to her this year is abysmal. No consistent character, no funny lines, and just being plain bad. Covering for Becky? She’d be fired, brough up on federal/state/terrorism charges, be charged for all the emergency responders’ time, and be sued out of existence by all the parents for “emotional distress”. No way it ends so simply for her.

I just want Glee to get back to having some internal consistency, dammit.

And lose New York. I really, really enjoyed just watching the High School stuff, with no Puck, Finn, Rachel, or Kurt.

Nope. There was a throwaway line that it wasn’t Unique, because his ringtone is “its raining men”.

I was kind of hoping it was Unique too. That would be interesting.

Maybe its Rory, rising from the dead…

Yes. I’ve taken to calling the New York people the No Directions. GLEE would be much better off just focusing on the GLEE club even if it means losing cast members.

And I think it was Lady Tubbington’s phone that rang.