Go To Hell, Chumpsky

Hey, Chumpsky? Did he say that nuking Hiroshima was justified? He may or may not believe that it was justified. But that is irrelevant. What IS relevant is whether Stalin murdering, imprisoning, starving, and annihilating large sections of Soviet citizenry was justified.

You claim it was justified, right? Since it was all for the good of the workers? First, let’s talk about what a fucked-up thing it is to justify that. Then, maybe we’ll start another thread about nuking Hiroshima, and whether it is fucked-up (or not) to justify THAT.

So, that means no Hiroshima talk, lets get back to talking about whether you are an inhuman monster or not.

So how can you justify the Red Terror, but (I’m assuming here, please correct me if I’m wrong) condemn the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings? Hypocrisy works two ways, Chumpsky.

Never heard about “The White Terror” (1918 in Finland and Gemany)?
IF not, I can give You a cite about the Finnish one. Let by just say that when brother begins a war against brother there are terrible acts. I think there is some examples of that in the US history also, Your civil war.
About the German one I can look for.

Henry

And btw., where do find anyone not condemning Stalin?

Quote me, fucker.

Yes, the White Terror in the Finnish civil war was quite a terrible time of mass murder. Like you said, civil wars are oftentimes some of the most brutal.

And, Henry, it’s not that people don’t condemn Stalin, it’s that people try to minimize his criminality. It’s like the people who say Hitler was naive of the Holocaust and actually didn’t hate Jews, you know?

Daoloth

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=154849&perpage=40&pagenumber=2

You can read what I wrote about USSR/Stalin/Russia here.
I think there can be some interesting points. My posts are in three parts.
If You want more info about it, that is not found in books, I can write more about it.

For those that are interested in White Terrorism, there is a quite good description in

http://personal.inet.fi/koti/heinrich.pesch/stites.html

My grandfather, even if he was not a socialist, just a worker trying to flee the fronts to Lappland, got caught and put in a concentration camp. His surviving is quite a story.
Later he got 7 children which all were politically right.
It was a taboo to speak about that grandpa had been in the camp.
I heard the story first time, from my father, when I was 27 years old.

End of hijacking.
Henry