Go West, Young Woman! (to Bellingham, specifically)

After much discussion and compromise, the husband and I have decided on Bellingham, WA as our settling place. I was angling for NorCal, he wanted a deserted island. We both wanted:

  • Ocean
  • Mountains
  • A small-ish population, but close enough to a big city that we don’t have to plan a week for “a trip into town”
  • No more frozen tundra

So, how did we do? Any Bellingham dopers out there that are willing to tell me pros and cons? I’m all ears. Er…eyes.

As an aside, we have a trip planned in May to hang out for a week, meet the natives and get a feel for the place. We’re flying into Seattle and driving from there.

If nothing else, it HAS to be better than Chicago. This winter about did us in.

Any input would be much appreciated.

I like the choice. I used to live in Oak Harbor (Whidbey Island), which is a little ways south of Bellingham. It’s a great area for just about anything you want to do. And the good thing about Bellingham is that it’s right in between Vancouver and Seattle, both of which are great cities. Considering what you were looking for, I think the choice is perfect!

The only cons I can think of off-hand are 1) the weather (cloudy and rainy for a good portion of the year) and 2) conservative drivers. I was able to get used to 1), but I never did adjust to 2).

Scotticher lives in Bellingham; tell her I said, “Hi”!

Good luck with your travels and ultimate move Nym.

I can’t speak specifically for Bellingham, but it’s a great area if you don’t mind the clouds and drizzle. Seattle’s a great city, and the weather will be pretty mild. Lots of options nearby recreation-wise. Good music scene (Seattle), and I happen to like the conservative drivers. :slight_smile:

Longtime Pacific Northwesterner here. Bellingham is a pretty cool city, but kinda small for my taste. (I live in Seattle proper.) Given your description, it sounds about perfect.

The warnings about the drizzle are worth repeating, though. According to statistics, the Seattle area’s reputation for rain is overstated; we get fewer inches of precipitation per year than New York, for example. However, we have many fewer clear and sunny skies than just about anywhere else. Most of the time it’s just gray, rain or not. Some people can’t handle that.

But yeah, the double proximity to both Seattle and Vancouver BC will be excellent for you.

I’m currently looking for a house to buy in Bellingham. (I found one on the Lummi reservation, but the inspection report was a little scary.) My best friend lives in the area, and he says that it’s less rainy there than in Seattle. I like the smaller city atmosphere, and the old part of town is cool. Although I’ve only visited Seattle a couple of times, I’ve driven through it. Traffic in Seattle sucks. Worse than L.A. A couple of friends lived there though, and they say Seattle totally rocks.

Bellingham is nicely close to Vancouver, B.C. Downtown Vancouver is a nice place. Good food, and the U.S. dollar goes far. There’s skiing at Mt. Baker, and good kayaking right there. And of course Scotticher lives there. (Hi Scotti! :slight_smile: )

Try Arlis’s for a massive breakfast.

Maybe we’ll be neighbours? :slight_smile:

Johnny, I remember when we met you said you were Washington bound. As I wrote the OP I wondered if I would hit close to home for you.

Between you, me and Scotti, I see a BelliDope in the future.

flyboy, you hit exactly on both the pros and the cons that we’ve seen. Never noticed the drivers, though. Of course, being from Chicago, we only have two speeds. 90mph and stand-still rush hour. I could probably deal with conservative driving. :slight_smile:

Thanks, Ringo! I’ll be sure to pass on some hugs for you.

fizgig, I can’t wait to hang out more in Seattle. Don’t want to live there (we’re trying to get out of the big city), but will be visiting often. I’ll want updates on where to hang out there as well.

Cervaise, I’m hoping I can hang. If not, we’re back to square one. But I plan on giving it at least five years before I give up on it. :wink:

Good feedback. I’m feeling pretty confident here. YAY!

Be really exotic! Move to Point Roberts, WA!

I’ve gone from Vancouver to Seattle quite a few times since I moved out west, and every time I go through Bellingham it’s cloudy, foggy, and drizzling.

oh-- and they have a lot of warehouse shopping strip malls. Aside from that, I know very little about the place.

The difficult part is that I don’t have a job waiting for me in B’ham. So I’m looking at houses I can afford to pay cash for, in case I have a hard time finding work (Washington’s unemployment rate is a bit discouraging). I found one place that was on half an acre with two cabins on it. When I actually went to look, both of the places were “tear downs”. The “good” place had a sagging roof and ceilings, and the floors weren’t level. And the two bedrooms were only seven feet wide.

The other place was 1/3 more money, but was in much better condition. But the solarium would have to be torn down or re-built by a certified contractor, the slope of the roof was questionable, and there was an outstanding complaint by a neighbour (which I couldn’t find the nature of); plus some other problems occasionally associated with a repo.

If I had a job that what I’m making now I could get something in the $200,000 - $250,000 range, which would be very nice in that area. But fat chance I’ll get the company to let me telecommute! Any job I could get up there would probably pay half of what I’m making. I could still get a $150,000 - $200,000 house, but it’s scary to commit myself without an income. As much as I hate to dip into my inheritance, I may have to move up and rent for a while.

I’ve heard that people are moving away from Seattle because of the dot.com crash. My realtor says they’re moving to Whatcom County, which he says is the fastest-growing county in the state. A friend of mine just sold (or is trying to sell) her house in Hoquiam. She’s taking a beating because people are walking away from houses there and it’s driving prices down. Hoquiam and Aberdeen are cute little towns, but they’re too small and too isolated for my tastes. Considering my present commute, they are within commuting distance to Olympia; but it’s still a drive. A co-worker is looking at houses in the Anacortes area. That’s within commuting distance to Everett (and possibly even Seattle). Her (Camano Island) sister says to avoid Skagit County, as you have to get your car smogged there (which is good from an environmental standpoint, but who likes to have that chore?).

The difficulty I’m having is with overcoming inertia. What I really need to do is to just move. But I’m being too cautious for my own good. I always like to leave an “escape hatch” for myself, and if I pull up stakes and move the hatch will get smaller and smaller the longer it takes to become established. I could live for two or three years on my savings, but when it’s gone, it’s gone. If my company had laid me off, then that would have given me the shove I need. It’s awefully hard to leave a nice job.

Anyway, the house thing is a bit frustrating. I’m thinking maybe I should buy a building lot while I’m down here, and have a house built. My realtor says houses generally cost between $85 and $90 per square foot to build. I can avoid problems with the houses like the ones I saw in the two places I made offers on, but I’ll end up spending more than I’m comfortable with right now. Still if I get the lot first, at least I’ll have it ready. Ah, if only I had twice the money available! It would be so much easier!

BobT: Pt. Roberts has some afforable houseing, but it’s way out there! And having to go through Customs all the time must be a drag.

Barbarian: Ironically, the last time I got a sunburn it was in Bellingham! (I avoid the sun as much as possible in L.A.)

Well, I’m at work in Bellingham as of 7:50 am and the wind is gusting up to 60 mph, our power has been on and off since about 5:00 this morning and my wife used up the hot water before I got in the shower (by flashlight I might add)!

Other than that, it’s a nice place to live. I’ve been here for about nine years and lived in Seattle for about 10 before that. Personally, you can get the benefits of Seattle and Vancouver here (both about an hour away) without the big city headaches.

As for a place to buy a house, you might try Sudden Valley. It’s just east of Bellingham, about five minutes out of town. Some people don’t like the drive, but you can get more house for the money out there. We lived in S.V. for about three years and just recently moved back into town.

See you around (I imagine - the Ham isn’t that big).

I lived in Bellingham for two and a half years. It’s a wonderful city, the people there are incredibly friendly, and the history in the area is wonderful to explore.

That being said, I had issues with the weather, being so rainy, drizzly, cloudy, and yes, snowy at times. Being a Los Angeles native, I had trouble adjusting and am now back in El Lay.

Things to see: Old Fairhaven - the history of the area is wonderful, have lunch at the Colophon Cafe in the basement of the local bookstore (and eat on the patio when the weather permits), go say hi to my friend at the Old Barbershop, and in the summer, enjoy old movies projected onto the wall of an outdoor building while you’re lounging on the grass - that’s right, no theatre, an outdoor movie!

Bellis Fair Mall is just like any other mall in the country, but at least there is shopping there.

And you can’t miss the American Museum of Radio, a fascinating journey back in time. The curator is a wonderful gentleman by the name of Jonathon Winter, and was a good friend during my days in the PNW.

Some of my favorite restauarants were Stanello’s in Old Fairhaven, Billy McHale’s out on the Guide, Skylark’s Hidden Cafe also in Old Fairhaven, and Bob’s Burgers and Brew in Ferndale and Old Fairhaven.

Enjoy the area - it IS beautiful - and make sure you take the stunning drive down Chuckanut Drive, from Old Fairhaven to the Skagit Valley. And don’t miss Deception Pass State Park, with the huge bridge.

I went to school in Bellingham. It is a nice enough area. Not too big a city, and if you do need a big city fix Seattle and Vancouver aren’t too far away. Lots of recreation opportunities in the area too (skiing, sailing, kyaking, hiking etc.)
The only thing that has come up as an issue for a lot of people in Bellingham is the job market. Bellingham is a college town, and there are a lot of well educated people who don’t leave when their years at Western are up. The competition can be fierce for what jobs there are. I haven’t heard about that getting better since I left. If you don’t already have a job in the area, you might want to look into that before you commit to Bellingham.

I lived in Anacortes for a year and in Seattle for nine. I really miss that area. The grey drizzles are no big deal. If you’re a hiker/camper it’s heaven. If you’re not it’s heaven too :slight_smile:

Sul

Well, I’m from Vancouver & Victoria but I’ve spent a lot of time in Bellingham since some of my SCA household live there. (I’m also moving to Washington, but the eastern side where I will dry up and turn to dust it seems. )

I enjoy how easy it is to get around in Bellingham, but at the same time there is still a lot of ‘green’ there, even with all the ugly strip malls. I’m sure there are lots of gorgeous places to live in off the beaten path. Not the deserted island your husband desires, but close! Friends there say that the job market isn’t too great though, but I guess that would depend on what you’re looking at.

It’s only a short drive to Seattle or Vancouver, which are both wonderful places to shop around in. While I haven’t explored the hiking there, it sure looks like there’s no lack of places to explore.

Hope you like rain! You’ll get a lot of it, but that’s what keeps it so green and lush. Fairhaven is eye candy. I have been to the Black Cat a few times, really good food!

Best of luck with your visit. I’m sure things will be fine.