I believed you when you said you left the thread, so this post must not be real.
Upon further reflection, I’m not sure what my objection was to your use of that phrase. It seems to me that if a spiritual event happens to someone, after thinking about it that’s exactly what they would do, decide to just accept it. So never mind.
Suppose a guy dating a girl and after being together for a few months, she says she loves him. He might reflect on it for a bit and ask himself some questions. “Does she really love me? Was it just the afterglow of the amazing sex we just had? Does she only love me for my money?” He might decide that she’s being honest and he’s going to just run with it.
Does he need to spend every waking moment for the rest of their relationship questioning her love for him?
You mean the post where he describes the actions of some unidentified group- of people?
My instruction was to stop accusing other posters of being afraid of what you are claiming as “truth” whether in some metaphysical realm or in your person. You tried this a few weeks ago. It is dishonest–because you are accusing people you don’t know of fears they have not expressed–and it is insulting–because you are making a claim that they would not hold such fears if they were wise enough to adopt your beliefs. Personal insults are not appropriate, here.
Fair enough (I was worried i’d totally misunderstood you). I’d tend to disagree with your thought, though, even though you would have more of an insight into the spiritual-event-having-person’s mind. 
I would say that not all people who have such an experience would accept it and their interpretation of it totally. By which I mean, I don’t think there would always be a point at which they stopped believing that they might be wrong - even though that may be just a tiny amount of doubt. I have had no spiritual experiences, but I would not be willing to accept 100% that it’s impossible. Likewise, i’d hope someone who had such an experience wouldn’t treat it as cold hard fact.
Look- my senses are not perfectly reliable, but if they tell me a car is headed toward me, I’m going to get out of the street even on the off chance I’m hearing and seeing things.
I tried to make clear in my last post that I was talking about this specific situation, or at least ones like it. If you see God or have a near-death experience, that is going to open up a whole array of other question that are not posed by feeling or seeing something you feel or see every day. ‘What is God, what is death, how did I continue to exist (and in what form) after death, why did this happen to me?’ and so on and so on. What is the rush, then, to draw a conclusion from the experience other than the desire to have a conclusion to draw from it? A direct experience with Gor or some similar being probably creates more questions than it answers.
He didn’t post this. His spirit body did.
Okay; sorry about that. I should have just stuck with the general point (which I had already stated in the previous post) without restating it in a personal way. I’ll keep an eye on that in the future.
I doubt them to the degree there’s not evidence for them, and the degree that there are alternative explanations for what I recall happening. Typically if I have toast in the morning, there’s lots of evidence I did. There’s less bread in the bag, a dirty plate in the sink, some crumbs, etc. If I looked and found that there was not less bread, and that instead of a crumby plate there was an eggy frying pan, I would immidiately start to wonder if I’d mixed up my memories of the morning with some other day. Such things have been known to happen, after all.
If I was riding in a train and glanced out of the window and saw a dark shape, the first thought that crossed my mind might be “Hey, that looks like a panther!” But I wouldn’t immidiately assume I had actually seen a panther; I’d actually probably jump to the window and try to get a second look. If I couldn’t, I might later remark, “Gee, I wonder what it was I saw.” I would not arbitrarily decide that what I saw was a panther, unless I found out that it was reasonably probable that there was actually a panther in the area.
If I had an NDE or other religious vision, my reaction would be “wow, weird dream/daydream!” If the experience imparted some possibly checkable information, I’d probably go have a look into it, for curiousity’s sake if nothing else. (I’m easily entertained.) I’d keep in mind the alternate possibility of having picked up the information through other means or lucky guesses. I have a hard time imagining that I would attain a level of confidence beyond “I had a strange experience that I can’t explain”, though.
Oh, I didn’t know I wasn’t supposed to answer this particular kind of post.
I never said that anyone should rush to any conclusions. Perhaps it’s that I’m misunderstanding your posts, but I’m just wondering why they must question it seemingly forever.
Let me give a quick answer and stop.
The evidence: I was healed from my heart problem, and I was a totally changed person. There were many other things also. I am sorry if it offends you or others but there just is no doubt in my mind what happened. Suggest you read about others, there you will find the same attitude.
Gotta go.
I am rarely offended by anything, but this video is very offensive, not so much to me, but to the billions of people who take their beliefs seriously. Would you like to be belittled and slammed because you are an American? Think about it.
Could someone please explain what this video is and why it might be offensive? I cannot click the link currently and I won’t have time later.
Jim
God, G O D Does exist. If it didn’t, you would be reading something else. Its ‘just’ a word.
It’s what it conitates in those who find it nessisary to put all kinds of weird meanings to the ‘word’ that causes all the brew ha ha.
Brew ha ha, funny words
“Rush” is being used metaphorically here - I’m not saying you suggested people should hurry to conclusions, I’m just saying there is no hurry. But considering the issues posed by those kinds of experiences, why shouldn’t people have perpetual questions about them?
It’s a Kids in the Hall bit about some philosophers who have the brilliant notion that God is dead. A few Jehovah’s Witness guys ask them to prove it. Then someone comes out carrying God’s corpse. Apparently He was really, really short. They are amazed for a bit that powerfuls winds and earthquakes could’ve come from someone so small and light. The world mourns for a bit, then gets on with its business.
I thought it was kind of funny.
That video isn’t belittling anyone, not by any stretch. It’s just a silly bit of absurd comedy.
(For those who can’t see it, it’s a Kids in the Hall sketch; a black-and-white film with the appropriate style of '50s voice-over: Nietzsche proclaims that God Is Dead, cynics don’t believe him, but then God’s dead body is discovered. The world is shocked to find that God did exist, then shocked to find that he is dead. (Dave Foley as Priest: “I’ve got some good news… and some bad news”). But it is most shocked to find out how small God was. Tiny, and very light, too. “The world has a brief period of mourning, … and then it’s business as usual, on the streets and highways that God built!”. The theme song kicks in and the cold open ends.)
Catherwood: What’s all the broohaha
Nick Danger: Broohaha/ Ha ha ha.
Catherwood: <Slams Door>
From the Further Adventures of Nick Danger, Third Eye, case sick sick sick.