Godammit Clinton, why did you have to go on Letterman?

Having also had the pleasure of watching the Clinton appearance on Letterman, I heartily agree with the OP. One couldn’t help but notice, after a full day of listening to Bush’s vacuous speeches, the incredible contrast to Clinton’s polished prose, intellectual capacity, command of subject matter and overall humanity.

Did this make anybody else laugh?

The first WTC bombing wasn’t on US soil?

Marc

That was all part of his strategery.

As opposed to Dubya, who strikes me as leering and disingenuous on the face of it, without the benefit of charisma or intelligence. He’s just a salesman. What baffles me is how many people buy into what he’s selling.

Not saying everyone sees it that way, but after his piss-poor gludge-fest speeches yesterday, and his content-free speech to the U.N. this morning, I can no longer help but see it that way.

Clinton had many problems, but at least he put on a good show. Dubya can’t even do that much.

Content-free speech at the U.N.?

Wow.

I’ve stopped trying to figure “you people” out, though. :wink:

Remember when Clinton had that medicine factory levelled by cruise missiles? Those were the days…

Hey look everyone, another failed attempt at being witty.

How nice.

How charming.

Just in case you’ve forgotten, which you obviously have, it was Koresch who continually lied and broke agreements which he had made with law enforcement officials and it was his followers who shot first and who killed ATF officers, so go play your failed Janet Reno smear game elsewhere, 'kay?

Nay, nay London Calling that’s not quite how it was. From your perch accross the Pond you misread Midwestern politics.

We can blame the appointment of John Ashcroft as AG on the good voters of the Show Me State of Missouri. Ashcroft was narrowly defeated in his Senate re-relection campiagn by Mel Carnahan, who had died in a plane crashed about 3 weeks before Election Day.

Had Ashcroft been re-elected, Bush would have almost certainly not appointed Ashcroft as AG. Jerry Falwell be damned.

The US Senate was tied 50-50 after Bush’s election --I mean appointment by the Supreme Court. Missouri’s Democratic Governor would have appointed a Democrat to fill the vacant Senate seat. That appointment would have tilted the control of the Senate to the Democrats, albiet, 4 months sooner.

On November 2, 2000 I very proudly cast my ballot for the deceased Mel Carnahan over a rather stiff John Ashcroft. In retrospect, however, I can’t help but wonder if the U.S. would be better off with Ashcroft in the Senate.

Apropos of nothing, conservatives are doubtless “pilloried and chastised” in these places. They are both liberal hangouts.

We’re more Quogue and Lake Powell.

Carry on.

No, no, NO.

Now, let’s go over this again: FIRST you make the obligatory snide ‘appointment’ shot as if it were a slip of the tongue, THEN you make the faux ‘retraction’ with its implied smirk.

Really, now, is post-Kinisonian sarcasm so difficult?

So what this really is all about is, who cares if we are being screwed or not by our President, as long as he looks and sounds good, then it was worth it. If I’m going to be raped, at least it could be by a cute guy. Is that what ya’all are getting at?

How a President appears and conducts himself on a talk show is completely irrelevant. It’s as irrelevant as possible. I want to see how the guy conducts himself in meetings with his senior staff, what kind of policies are beint set, etc. I don’t care if the guy can tell a joke.

I guess Bubba was afraid we’d all forget about him. He’s got to keep working on that legacy, after all. I wonder if Letterman spoon fed him the topics ahead of time like he did with the wretched Hillary Rodham.

If me and him ever sit down to some beers and sincere discussion, I’ve got a lot of bones to pick with him, a number of serioius lapses when he let down the team. Big time.

But towards the end I’d think about the number and the sort of people who lividly hate his guts, and I know I’d figure he had to be doing something right.

I also know I’d end up buying the beers.

Um…Oblong, Letterman isn’t a journalist. Everyone gets to see the topics ahead of times. Or did you think that every celebrity just had some cute anecdote to share right off the bat during those interviews. Give me a break.

Even d’Amato got spoon fed questions. They aren’t there to make them look bad or ask tough questions. Letterman’s job is to make his guests look GOOD! Even if they are evil carpetbaggers.

You obviously didn’t watch.

Come to think of it, you obviously didn’t read the OP, either.

Maybe that’s why he issued so many pardons. Tried to even the score. :rolleyes:

Lets see, now, “pardons”. Not quite, no. Ah, here we go, “presidential pardons”, search within that, ah, there! “Presidential Pardons and George H.W. Bush”

Ready when you are, Philo! Bring it on! Have us a good ol’ time!

And Oblong you might have something there, poor ol’ Bill, kicked over to the curb and nobody paying much attention to him.

Say, by the way, what did you think of Newt Ginrich’s latest press conference?

We must have been watching different wars or something. In the one I watched, we sent a lot of special forces in to deal with the people who did it. And maybe you need to look at a picture of 1945 Berlin to understand what carpet bombing actually is. The only thing “carpet bombed” in Afghanistan was remote mountain ranges.

And on the topic, I don’t miss Clinton. Not because I blame him for everything that ever went wrong, but because I think the office of the President of the United States should mean something, and a guy who cheats on his wife and gets blowjobs in an office that used to be occupied by men like Lincoln and Roosevelt, well it just isn’t my idea of a president. YMMV

Also occupied by Warren G. Harding and Richard Nixon. Lets get a little perspective on this, ok, igloo-kicker?

Well, Rossarian, we’re each entitled.

But as long as we’re sharing our ideas of what makes a president… my ideas never, ever include anything having to do with a president’s sex life. Ever. Under any circumstances. Cuz I just don’t see how it applies. Isn’t that funny?