Goddamnit I hate spiders!!!!!

Another fair warning to arachnophobes: You might not want to read the following. As mentioned above I’m kind of into spiders, and living in the tropics gives me a lot more opportunity to contemplate them than some people would prefer.

Hell, yeah. One of those things bit a friend of mine a few years ago; best guess was that it crawled up under the covers towards the foot of his bed. He spent something like 3 days in Intensive Care, pissed blood for about a week, and didn’t walk right for over a year. I mean, his freakin’ foot nearly rotted off.

Be glad it isn’t the brown recluse that particularly favours the underside of toilet seats.

The brown recluse has really taken hold in this part of the Bahamas. I’ve only seen 3 personally in the 8 years I’ve been here, but that was 3 too many. Granted, it’s axiomatic that the ones you don’t see are the real problem …

The one that tried to stake a claim in my underwear drawer was easy enough to deal with.

Ditto the apparently suicidal one that came trucking across the floor of the mess hall during dinner one night, directly to the feet of the one person in the room who was likely to even bother identifying a spider before squashing it. Namely, uh, me. This specimen was a good 15mm long, at a guess; really big, for a brown recluse, and I wouln’t have believed it myself if it hadn’t been for the distinctive markings and morphology. (I even entertained, briefly, the thought that it might be a Chilean recluse–those buggers get up to about 25mm long–but that didn’t seem too plausible geographically.) This one looked pretty old, and had lost half of two legs to something apparently bigger and meaner (a bigger spider, a scorpion, or maybe a rat). If I were a little more inclined towards anthropomorphism, I’d say it wanted to die.

For my money, though, the real prize-winner was one little fucker that made up in timing what it lacked in size. It showed up on my shower curtain one morning. Specifically, on the inside of my shower curtain. I didn’t even see the bastard until I had the shower running and the curtain closed. Too bad we don’t have video footage of the ensuing 30 seconds, because there are TV shows that would pay well for it. I did some serious nude levitation while drowning him in Selsun Blue.

IANAL, but if this is literally the case it sounds like a very nasty Personal Injury suit just waiting to happen.

Before moving here in the early '90s, I spent almost a year in the Seattle area. During that time, there was an intermittent local media flap about something called the “hobo spider” (Tegenaria agrestis, for anyone who gives a shit.) This is a Mediterranean import, considerably larger on average than the brown recluse and a nasty piece of work in its own right. I only know of one outright fatality from it, but there may have been more.

The Times/PI, in their wisdom, made lots of noise about hobo spiders, but AFAIK they never saw fit to print a decent desription. I had a couple of these in my apartment, which I eventually evicted after they repeatedly displayed an inordinate fondness for the insides of my shoes. I didn’t even find out what I’d been hosting until well after the fact.

That was a warm fuzzy feeling, let me tell you.

Very similar to the sensation one might experience upon losing sphincter control.

I just found a really large, clear picture of a brown recluse…and I find it utterly unremarkable. Meaning, I still wouldn’t know one if I saw it in person.

Tell me something reassuring…or some way to really know what it is. Shit, it looks like a million other spiders I’ve seen. Is it shy, or does it seek us out?

Bad enough about the widows, now I have to worry about these fuckers.

(by the way, according to what I’ve heard and seen, a Widow bite will put you in the hospital for a week, writhing in agony that can barely be reduced by massive applications of pain killer. No thanks.)

Stoid

Well, these things have eight REALLY LONG legs (in relation to their tiny lil’ body), and build webs. I’ve been calling them “daddy longlegs” my whole life, probably because they have - surprise - long legs. And they’re probably the only spider that don’t give me the willies, 'cuz they never leave their web.

Pretty nasty, but spiders have one big advantage over roaches when it comes to freaking me out…spiders have fangs and are poisonous. If I see a roach on me, I knock it off and step on it. If I see a spider on me, I jump up and scream like a little baby while running around the room frantically slapping at the general location of the spider.

I absolutely hate the fucking things.

Hey Spoofe, check this out, Daddy longlegs are one of the most poisonous spiders around!
I am terrified of spiders, but those are the only ones who don’t bother me.
Why you ask?
Well, although they are one of the most poisonous their mouths are too small to bite people.
I had heard this before, and then the heathens and I watched the Crocodile Hunter and they did a show on spiders.

I’m not surprised. But “most poisonous” doesn’t equal “most dangerous”, so I don’t give a damn.

Fine, just take the wind out of my sails!
Here I was trying to be big and scary and you have to just go and rain on my parade.
You big meanie!

::sits in a corner sticks out her tounge and pouts::

It would be my damn luck to run into the one mutant Daddy longlegs that had fangs long enough to bite me. Kill on sight is my philosophy.

Yeah, they’re pretty nondescript, appearance-wise. Small and light brown, with a dark brown-to-black violin-shaped marking on the cephalothorax. The violin marking isn’t unique to the species, either.

I have no idea where you live, so you might even be outside its geographic range. In the US, the brown recluse is generally a creature of the Southeast and lower Midwest, although its relatives in the Southwest are also poisonous to a certain extent.

Southern California, and for some screwball reason the Boston area, have problems with the larger, more venemous, and occasionally aggresive Chilean recluse. The coloration is pretty much the same, though.

It’s shy, as most of the poisonous spiders in North America are. Not vicious at all.

But here’s one problem: In contrast to the equally but differently nasty black widow, which is very much a homebody, the recluse is more prone to wander. Said wandering is usually done at night. They like dark, relatively dry places. Like, for instance, closets and dressers. Most bites happen when the victim puts on clothing with a spider inside, or rolls over onto one at night. The bite is entirely defensive, not that it makes a whole lot of difference to the bitee.

Beyond coloration–which, as noted, isn’t a foolproof indicator–the most obvious giveaway is that members of the recluse family have six eyes, whereas most spiders have eight.

Of course, “obvious” is in the eye <snicker> of the beholder, and if you can’t or won’t get close enough to count spidey’s peepers, you might consider just arbitrarily squashing anything that makes the evolutionary mistake of looking too much like a brown recluse on homo sapiens turf. Much as it pains me to advise that, it’s frankly what most people are going to do anyway.

You might not want to worry too much.

I’ve noticed a tendency among people who’ve just found out about these critters: All of a sudden, anything that isn’t identifiably a tarantula, a black widow, or a garden spider becomes a brown recluse. That’s taking things a bit far.

Looking around the Web, I see that this page has a nice little introduction to the brown recluse and its 55(!) related species.

To draw an inexact analogy: Would you rather be bitten by a rattler or a coral snake? As anyone certifiably sane will have deduced by now, the right answer is “Neither one”.

The widow packs a definitely nontrivial neurotoxin, and if it injected any serious quantity people would die from black widow bites on a much more regular basis than they do. FWIW, I’ve also heard of lingering aftereffects that can last for a couple of years.

Still, if you really want to hear about Spiders From Hell, you might ask some of the resident Aussies. :slight_smile:

Interesting. I knew someone who had to have a chunk taken out of his leg because of what was diagnosed as a bite from a brown recluse. I live in Connecticut. Perhaps we’re getting the Chilean recluse?

Also: SPOOFE, I think that what you call a daddy longlegs is not what is popularly meant by the name. Here’s a page. As we learn in the linked FAQ, daddy longlegses (I’m winging it on the pluralization) belong to the family Opiliones, whereas spiders belong to the family Araneae. I quote, noting that they call 'em harvestmen on this FAQ:

So that thing in the web that you call a daddy longlegs is actually a spider.

I’m having quite a PBS moment over here.

Huh. If I were not an idiot, I would have read the very next question in the FAQ, which says:

So, y’know, just ignore everything I said. Go read boomvark’s posts again.

Well, hell, Lux, don’t worry about it. I really don’t give a damn about what they’re called… it’s just that I grew up calling these things by that name. I always thought we should find a different name that doesn’t sound so goofy, anyway…

And Kricket…

If it makes you feel any better, yeah, you really, really terrified me with your comments. I mean, I pissed AND crapped my pants at the same time. That whole “I don’t give a damn” thing was just false bravado.

Feel better now? :smiley:

… I misspelled ‘venomous’.

That certainly is interesting, and it’s possible. I used to live in the Groton/Mystic area, and Boston isn’t a long ride from there at all.

Also, if the fellow who got bitten has been south recently–or, for that matter, if any of his family, neighbours, or house guests have been–it’s equally possible that an individual brown recluse or two hitched a ride back with someone. They’re notorious for finding their way into luggage and cargo; as nearly as anyone can tell, that’s how we got them here.

I mean, it would’ve taken a pretty sick puppy to import the little buggers on purpose …

One more quick note and then I’ll, uh, bug off for a while.

The question of the daddy longlegs’ toxicity is treated at reasonable length here, particularly in the final 10 (short) paragraphs.

Actually, I thought the topic looked familiar. That’s because it’s come up before in an installment of the Straight Dope Mailbag.

I think the short answer is still ‘nobody knows, because nobody’s bothered to study it’.

Not even these people, whose site I’m otherwise finding to be more than mildly interesting. I assume you’d have to present some pretty credible academic credentials before they’d actually sell you anything from their collection of spider toxins, though.

Oh the little fuckers… EVIL, evil, evil demon seed BLOOD SUCKING creatures from HELL! I hate them, I hate them but good and let me tell you why! When I was a hormonally retarded teenager, I would attempt to sneak in hours after my curfew. We lived in a deck house with heavily wooded surroundings which had a very convenient walk in basement that allowed me to ever so gently slip through sliding glass doors at 3 a.m. without so much as stirring a slumbered parent. BUT there was a catch.
These doors had a huge deck above… a spider’s haven riddled with wonderful 90-degree angles banking on the moonlit glass. Aaaaaaah, the moths and flying innocents of the night sky were attracted effortlessly… it WAS the ultimate spider’s den. Not just any spider have you, this was for the elite, the kings and queens of the arachnid world, only the best were to dwell here… only… the WOLF SPIDERS!!!
After flawlessly killing the lights and engine of my trusty VW golf to silently cruise down the dark driveway, impeccably avoiding so much as a stick or crushed acorn to tip the opponents to my ghostly presence, I’d make my way in the pitch black to the trusty sliding doors. Vigilantly prowling on my tiptoes (a relatively difficult task after 700 beers mind you) relying on memory to faithfully guide, reminding me where that damn hose was, watch that air conditioner, beware the steps leading down to the pool. Oh, I’ve nearly got it … I’m almost there… home freeeeee… but wait… OH GOD… WHAT’S THAT??? FUCKING WEBS… FUCKING WEBS ALL OVER ME… I FORGOT THE WOLF SPIDERSSSSSS!!! OH JESUS CHRIST… THEY’RE ALL OVER ME… MY HEAD… MY NECK… WEBS EVERYWHERE!!! OH GOD!!! WHERE THE FUCK IS THE GODDAMNED SPIDER!!! THAT BIG HAIRY BITCH IS ON ME SOMEWHERE… MY HAIR MAYBE… DOWN MY SHIRT? WHERE? WHERE?!? STOP, DROP AND FUCKING ROLL!!!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! DON’T SCREAM, DON’T SCREAM FOR THE LOVE OF MAN… RIP OFF THE CLOTHES, RUN, RUN…RUN TO THE LAWN… MAKE WIND…CONVULSE… GET IT OFF!!! GET IT OFF!!! JUST GET IT THE HELL OFF!!!
Jesus christ, there was nothing more sobering than the wolf spider horror experiences and my siblings and I share the stories regularly. To this day, we share the fears of lurking doorway arachnids and their depraved ways. Never shall we forget those eight legged terrorist bastards from the fiery pits!!! ::::wipes tear stained face::::

Hold me.

As I said in a previous spider thread …

I prescribe fire. And lots of it.

shudder I feel my skin crawling already.

Ok, I’ve got the major HEEBIE JEEBIES now!!

Kopie, my skin is crawling with the absolute HORROR of what you must have gone through!

I forgot about Wolf spiders. I hate all spiders except the “Daddy Longlegs”. I still don’t want them in my house, but at least they don’t have me screaming and running around the house in panic looking for something to beat the hell out of them!

LNO, I like how you think!!!

Friends love to scare me with spider trivia like that you are never more that 3 feet away from a spider, you swallow 3-4 spiders a year in your sleep and that there is no such thing as a non-venomous spider. I’m inclined to believe only the last, but all of them give me the creeps.

I have a hard time even wathcing shows about spiders. Reading all this has made me very itchy, and there is no way in hell I was clicking on that Windsor link, I wouldn’t sleep for days.

How afraid am I? A few years back, I was sitting around one night and thought I saw something crawl across the floor. There was a flood recently, and was afraid a field mouse had come in for shelter. I saw it crawl under a chair, next to which I was using an old speaker as an end table. I peaked around and saw something crawling on the speaker, I turned it over to the horror of hundred of baby spiders crawling around. Taking a huge leap back, the “mouse” I saw was actually a huge spider and apparently I pissed it off. I swear the thing hissed at me. Picture a 22 year-old 5’11", 210 pound man jumping up on a couch and screaming, and you’ll pretty much nail my reaction. My roomate at the time ran downstairs, thinking I was being horrible butchered, to find me standing on the couch, pointing at the ground like some kind of cartoon woman who saw a mouse. Laughing at me, he killed it and threw the spider infested speaker outside.

I’m still trying to live down that one. Of course, he only mentions it when I’m talking to women. That bastard…

::praying fervently::
Thank you, ancestors, for settling in Canada…Thank you, ancestors, for settling in Canada…
(boomvark, there’s no bad spiders in Calgary, is there? Please say no. There’s a good boy.:))

Uh, that’s “Praying fervently”.