Yes, they do. Also muscle mass, skin tone, hair, menses, teeth, and, if untreated, all metabolic functions. JohnClay, anorexics have a disease that makes them starve themselves to death. These are not the people you want to be modeling.
IANA a psychologist, and I am in no way qualified to advise a stranger on the Internet. But your posts are giving off a kinda pathological, eating disorder-y vibe. If you’re really interested in losing your belly fat, maybe go talk to a nutritionist. And maybe it wouldn’t hurt to talk to a therapist, too.
If I stopped before becoming bony then I don’t see the downside - well I could lose some muscle mass but my next diet addresses that.
Well the longest fast I’ve done is 48 hours. I was surprised that my doctor said 7 days is “fine”… I expected it to be 2-3 days. I don’t see how that is an eating disorder… I eat foods I like (unless someone else is choosing my meals) - I’m not forcing myself on problematic diets.
I’d rather do my own research and come to my own conclusions. And get advice from my doctor.
My doctor is like a therapist… he monitors how all areas of my life are going including my job, etc.
How much did you lose in those 48 hours? 2 or 3 kilos maybe? Now get ready to gain it back and then some. I’ve also done research on fasting. It is not a good way to lose weight long term. The right way takes patience and commitment. It’s really very simple.
It includes:
Portion control
A good and balanced diet
Movement - aerobic and weight lifting 3-5 times/wk.
Well now I’m on the Warrior Diet (except for the all-you-can-eat salad bar today - though it was still fairly low on calories)
The water fast was something I wanted to try - I didn’t expect it to be the perfect answer to my stubborn belly fat. I expected to lose some muscle so I was looking for alternatives.
No, they’re not. Anorexics are terrible at controlling their weight. That’s why untreated anorexics die. Because anorexia is a disease.
Well, this is according to the Bible. Which also says that Elijah was carried up to heaven in a fiery chariot and that Jesus brought a man back from the dead. Maybe the Bible is a better source of moral guidance than medical advice?
Fair enough - you know your own body best. And I’m not trying to argue with or confront you, man. But some of your posts - especially the ones that point to anorexics as positive models for weight management - raise some red flags.
What exactly are your motivations for fasting? You are already at your ideal weight, you said - you have a BMI I’d kill for. Are you interested in fasting for health reasons? Spiritual reasons? To lose weight? What’s behind all this? As my sister, an LCSW who works with people with eating disorders, told me - it’s an aphorism in her field - “It’s not what you’re eating. It’s what’s eating you.”
Again, it’s your body and mind, and you know them best. But attending to your mental health is just as important as attending to your physical health.
I mean anorexics are good at losing weight. In their early stages they have a good somewhat thin body.
I am an atheist but I find the Bible interesting.
I’d rather read about nutrition for myself and make my own decisions than have a diet that someone told me to do.
I’m just saying that fasting can be used for weight loss. I’m not saying that it is a very healthy method.
According to BMI the healthy weight range for my height is about 62 - 80 kg and I’m about 73 kg. So if I lost some more (to try and get a flat stomach) I’d still be in the healthy weight range. Anyway I’m into intermittent fasting now, not 48+ hour fasting.
you said - you have a BMI I’d kill for. Are you interested in fasting for health reasons? Spiritual reasons? To lose weight? What’s behind all this? As my sister, an LCSW who works with people with eating disorders, told me - it’s an aphorism in her field - “It’s not what you’re eating. It’s what’s eating you.”
So does my doctor.
Well I do go to my doctor and have blood tests every four weeks…
No, they don’t have a good body. They have little muscle mass, they are malnourished, lacking many important dietary building blocks. They may be thin but they are not healthy. There is NOTHING useful you can learn about nutrition from an anorexic.
The early stages of anorexia are akin to the early stages of jumping from a tall building. Everything is just not fine up to the moment you hit the ground.
This can’t be serious. WTF are all these “Warrior Diets” and “IF” diets then, if not exactly that-“diets that someone told you to do”-which you say you’d rather not do?
In the Renegade diet it says to only eat beef that is grass-fed and have organic foods, etc. I’m picking and choosing from it - not following it precisely. I’m going to try out the IF parts. On the other hand nutritionists expect people to stick to their diets.
The problem with anorexics is that they think they’re fat when they’re bony. To follow their early stages doesn’t mean a person has to have identical beliefs to them.
Ambivalid:
I guess nutritionists might take their client’s opinions into account but anyway I can’t be bothered seeing one. My goal is to lose stubborn belly fat as easily as possible. I like being in control of my life. I think doing what a nutritionist tells me is giving up my control. Diet books involve me freely choosing but with a nutritionist you’re meant to do what they say.
How does one follow the path of an anorexic without thinking like an anorexic? Would you like an “Anorexic meal plan” that you could follow, at least in the early stages? Ok, i can help you with that. This is what their meal plans look like:
I know you dont like being told every little thing to eat, so feel free to play around with it a bit. Mix it up, have fun!
Actually, no. A nutritionist will work with you to establish eating habits - not a diet - that you can stick to and that will work with your goals. What they won’t do, at least not reputable ones, is suggest a faddy diet that might get you the short-term results you’re looking for, at the expense of your overall health.
More to the point, any diet that you get out of a book, even if it’s a legit, healthy diet, is not going to be tailored for you. A nutritionist’s diet will.
No. The problem with anorexics is that they think all their worth as a person is tied up in their appearance and weight. A person with anorexia - and please note that men can suffer from it as well - thinks that if she just loses that last five pounds, she’ll finally be able to love herself and be happy. That last five pounds is of course a moving target, because anorexia is not a disorder of the body; it’s a disorder of the mind.
Why would you not want an eating plan that is specifically tailored to you? A nutritionist will sit down with you, go over what kinds of foods you like to eat and which you don’t, look at what times you eat your largest meals and if you like to snack and will devise a plan that lets you eat what you like in the way that you like while still being nutritious and healthful.