I’m a freak; I never read the book nor saw the movie. I avoided both because I thought they would depress me unduly.
Anyway, my question is, did Scarlett ever sleep with Ashley? I mean, I know there wouldn’t have been explicit sex scenes in the book, and in the movie, we don’t see Scarlett and Rhett after he carries her up the stairs, because that’s apparently all we need to know. But was it ever implied that they did?
Thanks in advance!
Scarlett and Ashley never had sex, in the book or movie, though the in the book, he lusts after hera bit more obviously, and one one occasion, he admits he comes close to letting his desire overwhelm his common sense. Scarlett confuses his desire for love, but Ashley does not love Scarlett. He’s just to “chivalrous” to say it.
Ah do declare, certainly not!
As Lissa said Scarlett and Ashley never had sex. But Scarlett O’Hara Hamilton Kennedy Butler was married twice before she married Rhett, first to Charles Hamilton, Melanie’s brother(Melanie married Ashley), second to Frank Kennedy, whom she stole from her sister Suellen. In the book she had a son, Charles, by her first husband, and a daughter by her second husband. She then had another daughter by Rhett, Eugenia Victoria, known as Bonnie. In the movie she didn’t have those first two kids.
Her own mother had a sad love life. Ellen Robillard O’Hara married Gerald O’Hara when she was fifteen and he was forty-one. She wasn’t in love(duh!) but she wanted to get away from her family, who had driven away the scapegrace cousin she was head over heels for. In the movie Ellen appeared to be in middle age, and no “past” was ever mentioned. She actually wouldn’t have been more than thirty-six or thirty seven when she died in the fever of delirium, calling the name of her long dead cousin.
I’m a confirmed GWTW geek, having been indoctrinated at an early age by my mother. I did the above from memory.
::Bowing in awe before Baker::
And I thought I was doing good to know Scarlett’s full name!!
WOW!
And I’m a Yankee too!
One thing I almost forgot. Her first name was actually Katie. Scarlett was her second name. She was the namesake of Gerald’s mother in Ireland.
Correction to the names of Scarlett’s first two kids (the ones who were amputated for the movie):
Wade Hampton Hamilton
Ella Lorena Kennedy
Oh, and damn the wench who took the username Katie Scarlett and posted a whole eight times. :mad:
Thanks for the info!
From the thread title, I thought you were referring to this, one of the dumbest Star Trek: Voyager episodes ever, and that’s saying something.
Well fiddle-dee-dee Scarlett67, I did get the boy’s name wrong, couldn’t remember the girl at all. Let’s see now, he was named for the CSA company commander Charles served under, wasn’t he?
Oh, and poor Ellen did have three sons, each named Gerald O’Hara Jr., and each dead before their first birthday.
Bryan Ekers, you thought the same thing I did when I first saw the thread title. But when Q was wooing Janeway I preferred his declaration in her bedroom “Foreplay with a Q can last for centuries!”
Baker, did you remember Ellen Robillard O’Hara’s cousin/lover was named Phillippe? “Fee-leeep!” Dilcey reports that Ellen called out; Mammy tells her to hesh. I loved the tidbits about Ellen’s fast grandmother, or whoever it was, who doused her slips in cold water before putting them on and dancing the night away.
I read the book just recently and felt really bad for her kids. They only love they ever got was from Melanie and Rhett, since scarlett cares nothing for them and they don’t like her when she does take an interest(Wade is 10 or so, I believe). At the end, I shudder to imagine what will happen to them with Rhett gone and Melaine dead.
In that awful sequel that was written, they were sent to Suellen and that guy she married, Will Benteen. He was the one who spoke for the family at Gerald’s funeral. They were living at Tara and overseeing the place.
:::sigh::: I’m just gonna have to put the question IN the title from now on.
Damn Baker, first the Western thread, now I find you are a fellow GWTW freak!! You and I shall have to have some nice long chats.
Scarlett never dreamed of sleeping with Ashley. She longed for him, and as it was explained in the book, her habit of loving him lasted longer than her actual love, which was nothing more than a girlish crush. When she grew up (because she was self-centered for most of the book) she realized how much Rhett loved her and how much she loved him.
In the sequel, which I took at its own value and did not compare it to GWTW (mainly because it doesn’t come close) Scarlett does learn to love her fourth child with Rhett. I took that to mean she was finally coming into her own, and living for her own happiness and what society demanded of her.
I’ve often wondered if Melanie slept with Rhett she spent with him after Bonnie’s death. The child she miscarried that caused her death could have been Rhett’s.
Also in the book, Rhett mentions visiting his “ward,” a ten year old boy, in New Orleans and Belle, the madam and his mistress, mentions her son who lives in New Orleans.
Melanie would never have slept with Rhett, and he respected her too much to have taken advantage of her. Couldn’t have happened.
GWTW is my favorite book and movie. Any daughter of my loins will be named Katie Scarlett.
Melanie + Rhett: Not possible, at least in the movie. She tells Rhett she’s going to have a baby when she goes in to see him with Bonnie’s body, and she collapses immediately after leaving. It’s been a while since I read the book, so I don’t recall the order of events there.
Belle + Rhett: Quite likely.