Good HEAVY metal w/o Cookie Monster Vocals?

I’m looking for some good metal with normal, human-sounding vocals. I was recommended the band Opeth about a year ago, and loved the music, until the horrible, wood-chipper vocal kicked in. Anything relly heavy would be good - doesn’t have to be super-speed metal, or death metal, or any genre in particular, just something HARD.

Thanks,

Joe

Go with Black Sabbath–yeah, they have some mellow stuff, but they can bring the noise, too…

Dream Theater, maybe?

Yeah, I’m a sabbath fan, but looking for newer stuff - stuff I’m not familiar with. Thanks, though :slight_smile:

Joe

Try Ministry’s Land of Rape and Honey, A Mind Is a terrible Thing to Taste, or Psalm 69. After that, Jourgensen’s vocals become a little buzzsaw, but those three albums are hot.

Hmmm, gotta be new, hunh?
I vote for Tool.

**Disturbd ** (Spelling?) is pretty good. **Avenged Sevenfold ** is pretty good - both rock hard and have big double-kick and shreddy guitars - but they are pretty melodic vocally…

Some bands for you to check out:

Evergrey
Vanishing Point
Nevermore
Amorphis
Nightwish
Katatonia
Iced Earth

Amorphis and Katatonia have some growling on their earlier stuff, but for the most part have chilled out quite a bit. And take it from me, if you like the music but hate the vocals, the vocals will grow on you. Took me a year or so to get used to it.

Trivium
Mushroomhead

Dragonforce, if you don’t mind your speed metal mixed with 80’s operatic style metal vocals. These guys play at light speed, but most of the songs are pretty much interchangable.

I have to admit that not too many people are looking for the clean stuff these days with the rise in popularity of black metal. Maybe try something by Dimmu Borgir. Not Cookie Monster, but Shagrath goes kind of do a higher pitched growl thing most of the time, but ICS Vortex (yes, that’s his name) has some really nice clean parts in many songs. Try the song Progenies of the Great Apocalypse for a decent taste of their newer style.

Oh, I don’t know if this makes a bit of differance to you, but Dimmu is rather Satanic if that kind of thing offends you. They’re not really all that serious about it, but it’s certainly more than some people are used to.

The best metal band you’ve probably never heard of is Pist*on. You can find their first cd at amazon wicked cheap.

Wiki has a list of Nu-metal bands here. Of the less well-known I recommend:
Depswa
Earshot
Ill Niño
Lacuna Coil
Ra
The Blank Theory
Unloco

There’s a list of Christian Metal Bands here (“Christian” usually doesn’t mean much as far as I can tell.) These are decent:
Blindside
Bride
Flyleaf
Thousand Foot Krutch

None of them has a lot of yelling that I can recall, at least on tracks I’ve heard. I kind of like the yelling when it comes to bands like Killradio and The Prom Kings, though, honestly.
Thrice

Holy crow – Flyleaf is “Christian?” They’ve been getting some airplay down here in SoFla, but I had no idea … The lead singer - what’s her name? - has a decent set up pipes on her, that’s for sure!

I usually hate metal (especially for the growly vocals and uber-macho posturing that comes off as ridiculous when guys are decked out in studded leather, face paint, or white-boy dreadlocks), but I LOVE Dragonforce! I’ve only heard a few songs off their website, so can you recommend me a good “starter” album from them?

Nightwish is good too – epic, operatic metal from Finland with powerful non-screamy female vocals.

Yep. There’s a lot about it in their wiki entry Flyleaf - Wikipedia. I love her voice, too :slight_smile:

Disturbed. (You’re thinking of Staind, I suspect.) Another newer metal band I like that doesn’t get that growly is Sevendust. The lead singers of both bands show they can be quite melodic at times, but aren’t afraid of going full-on yelling while still being intelligible.

Well of the three albums they have out, Inhuman Rampage is the newest and best produced. That one would have the songs you’ve heard on their website.

Valley of the Damned is their first album and Sonic Firestorm the second, but really start with the new one and work your way backwards if you find you need more. One of the major complaints about Dragonforce is that they’re not real varied when it comes to what they do. After a while it all starts to blend into one long song. I do have all three, but I’ve found that having three Dragonforce albums is kind of like having three things of cotton candy. You really just don’t need *that * much to be happy. YMMV, of course.

How heavy is heavy? Usually what I’d consider the ultra-heavy stuff comes with the growls as a matter of course–which is unfortunate; a lot of the stuff is beautiful, but many folks who might otherwise listen can’t get over the vox. But then, the folks making black and death seem to pride themselves on being deliberately inaccessible.

I also second Lord Ashtar’s comment: If you like the music, you’ll get to where you can at least tolerate the vocals. You might even start to think of certain vocalists as ‘better’ or ‘worse!’ I very nearly dismissed black metal when I first heard it, due to the harsh vocals–but I came to accept them eventually. Ideally they should be back in the mix, so as to contribute to the song/atmosphere without distracting overmuch, IMO–they’re still not exactly -pleasant-.

Kyuss: I’ve only one album, Blues for the Red Sun, but it’s solid, heavy, sludgy metal in the tradition of Black Sabbath. Vox are uniformly clean, IIRC.

Acid Bath: Southern sludgy metal. Some harsh vox, but some gorgeous clean stuff, and killer melodies throughout. I think these guys have went on to become the very harsh black metal band, Goatwhore.

Arcturus: A supergroup that’s had Garm of Ulver and Simen Vortex of Dimmu Borgir as vocalists in their history. Their first album had harsh vox; the rest have been clean. They peaked, IMO, on their second album, La Masquerade Infernal, but some may disagree and the later albums do have their fans.

Bathory: The fathers of viking metal (and one of the fathers of black, too). Hammerheart is the album to go for here, IMO. Gritty but clean vocals. Vocals were harsh on the prior album, and entirely clean on the following–unfortunately, Quorthon isn’t that good a singer.

Borknagar: I think these guys have used clean vox throughout their career. I might be wrong. Never got heavily into them, but they’re pretty good.

Bronx Casket Co.: A side project of a fellow from Anthrax, I think, these guys are the band Type O Negative wish they could be. Heavy gothic-tinged metal with clean vox throughout.

Green Carnation: Authors of perhaps the finest moment in metal, the sixty-minute epic, “Light of Day, Day of Darkness.” Nothing I say can do that album justice. Since then, they’ve kinda wandered into ever proggier territory and I’ve not kept up with them.

In the Woods…: In the same vein as Green Carnation, or rather, Green Carnation followed in their footsteps. Their first album included vocals so harsh that I’ve never listened to it from start to finish, but Omnio and Strange in Stereo are both superb, although definitely in left field and maybe not ‘heavy’ enough for you.

Pelican: Very heavy. No vocals at all; dunno if you’d dig that.

Rakoth: A band from Russia that so far as I know, have faded into even greater obscurity than that which they started. Mix of clean and harsh vocals, but beautiful melodies throughout. Some rather unintentionally comic themes, such as songs about the Drow. :rolleyes: Look for Planeshift and Jabberworks; I can’t vouch for their third or later albums.

Skyclad: Folk-tinged thrash, a bit heavy on the puns. ("…she led me to that place where cunning lingers…" for example…) Not sure of their current status, but they have a number of excellent discs.

So, there’s what a brief (and alphabetical) glance through my collection yields. Hope you find some good tunes in there. :slight_smile:

Wow, Lemur Catta, that’s a pretty impressive list of super obscure metal. I thought about giving up Arcturus, but some of the recent stuff is more Norwegian Mr. Bungle than metal. I’d love to have a few beers and play music nerd with you for an evening. You, me and Ultrafilter, and Lord Ashtar could have a good time playing jukebox I think. What do you think of SunnO)))?

Not even close to really being metal, but Muse’s song Knights of Cydonia has a nice heavy vibe with really clean vocals. There’s a bit too much synth in there for me, but there’s also a sweet Sabbath style breakdown towards the end.

Cradle of Filth’s Nymphetamne has Dani’s goofball blackened styles, but Sarah Jezebel Deva’s interludes are almost pretty

For a very melodic and not-nearly-as-hyper-as-Dragonforce power metal, I highly recommend Sonata Arctica.

I’d also recommend Korpiklaani, who use the fiddle and accordion along with the guitar/bass/drums for a nice folky-yet-heavy sound. They’ve been described (unfairly IMHO) as Finntroll with clean vocals.

Pagan’s Mind and Circus Maximus are both great power-prog bands with complexity comparable to Dream Theater.

Falconer also has excellent vocals on their first two albums Falconer and Chapters From A Vale Forlorn, and their latest Northwind. Their singer Mathias Blad had left the band for a couple albums because touring interfered with his career in musical theater, and while his replacement was a good metal vocalist in his own right, he just couldn’t measure up to the standard Blad had set.

Leaves’ Eyes has really good vocals by ex-Theatre of Tragedy singer Liv Kristine, though her husband Alex Krull does a little bit of grunting as well. Liv’s sister Carmen leads the band Midnattsol without anyone else grunting.

Rammstein and Megadeth, in case you’re not familiar with them.