Yes, the bad guy won at first but then Picard went into the Nexus and decided to “come out” back in time before the Nexus hit in the first place. The Chubby Kirk then saved the day in usual fasion.
I still found Kirks last words just a tad anti-climactic…
Anyhow, my Generations question is this. How did those damn little Rockets travel to the stars so quickly? It took something like 5 seconds. I am not a die-hard trekkie, so maybe they had warp or someting??
Speaking of Generations…
The bad guy wants to go into the ribbon because he was briefly in there once and wants to go back. Now the first time he went in he was on a ship that just got run-over by the ribbon. So why in the hell does he need to go through all the troulble of blowing up stars and making the ribbon come to him on a planet. Why not just pilot a ship into it?
Oh and if you want a better ending for Kirk and Picard try this.
Picard "Can I get you anything’
Kirk “All I need is a tall ship…”(dies)
Picard “and a star to stear her by.”
Kirk mentions this poem in TOS and Picard mentions this poem in the beginnning of Gennerations (if I’m not mistaken) It would have been a much better ending and passing of the torch so to speak.
There are plenty of books on technical flubs in films, but two that I caught (and distracted me from the movie) were
1.) the boom mike that you can see so very clearly bobbing over Mickey Rourke’s head in Body Heat. It’s impossible to miss, so I have to wonder how they left it in. When I’ve seen the film on TV I notice that it’s not there anymore, so I assume they re-framed the shot during the transfer to tape.
2.) The shadows of the camera and camera crew in Puppet on a Chain. An eminently forgettable movie, but I can’t forget that flub.
3.) At the beginning of The Guns of Navarone (one of my all-time faves)you see a (model) plane coming in for a landing, spewing smoke. The model work is pretty well done, but you se another plane inh the background. It’s another model, and it’s very obviously a model, because * it’s just hanging there in midair!!*. this goes by so quick that the first time you see it you miss it, but on repeated viewings it becomes annoying. Damn it, what’s that plane doing there? It doesn’t serve any purpose, and all it does is draw your attention to the fact that this is a model shot.
Was this in the theater, or on video? If the former, it was because the picture was not framed up properly. This is a projectionist error, not a flub on the part of the filmmaker.
Thanks. All I knew was that, in some continuity or other, he was supposed to be dead. That’s all I needed. Same with Starship Troopers. All I could think of was “where’s the power armor?!”
But I’ll save that for the book-to-film thread. 
No, this one works. If you recall, in the scene where Marge and Lou (the other cop) are investigating the triple murder, Lou has the dead trooper’s ticket book. The dead trooper had written a physical description of the car, and the letters “DLR” in the space for the license plate number. The other cop has already put out a call for any car matching that description and having plates that start with DLR, but Marge says “I’m not sure I agree with you a hundred percent on your police work, there, Lou.” and explains that she thinks that DLR stands for “dealer” plates, not the first three letters of an actual license plate.
So later on, when Marge says she found the perpetrator’s car, she’s going on the physical description of the car (a Tan Sierra, IIRC), not the plate number.
(In case you were wondering, yes, I’ve seen this movie waaaaay too many times.)
As Lamia noted in her response to a similar “flub” from ThisYearsGirl, this was not a technical error by the filmmaker, but rather a mistake made by the movie theater projectionist. Cecil briefly addressed this when discussing film aspect ratios:
http://www.straightdope.com/columns/981120.html
You’re contradicting yourself here, since you are ragging on a film which, by today’s standards, may have an effect that doesn’t look “right”, but which was seen as state-of-the-art at the time. The model work (mentioned by you and others) may not be as good as you’d like, but people at the time bought it, so it hardly constitutes a “flub.”
Hm, I always interpreted the “they” in that line as referring to Doctors Malcolm and Grant, as in, “If the experts aren’t convinced, I’m not convinced, and then I’ll go tattle to the investors.” Then again, maybe that’s just me.
Oh, guess I’d better contribute. Well, while we’re on Jurassic Park, I did get irritated that, while Nedry was talking to his ride on the “video phone”, you could clearly see a QuickTime progress meter at the bottom of the window, showing that it was just a movie file playing and not live video. That’s just careless.
This was discussed in a great book called “the Physics of Star Trek”… it pointed out (I think, from my scraggy memory) that even if the rockets travelled to the sun instantaneously, since we see the whole thing from the surface of the planet, (rockets leave, five seconds pass, rockets hit sun) the planet couldn’t be any further than five light-seconds away… a bit close for comfort. (We’re roughly a hundred times that distance away from our sun, and we’re just cosy (more or less) here.
And, speaking of Star Trek, that bloody pilot episode of Voyager where they escape through a crack in a black hole’s event horizon.
The one that most frustrated me was in “48 Hours”, with Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte. When they are driving into town after Murphy has been released from prison, there is a beautiful old (rather dirty) bathtub porsche just a handful of cars ahead of the car the two heros are in (the porsche seems almost to be the focus of the camera). No big thing but a few scenes later Murphy goes to get his car out of storage (it supposedly has been in storage ever since he first entered prison).
Guess what? You got it. It is the very same porsche that was dead center in the scene not that long before.
From that point on I lost interest in the film. I tried to get into it, but I couldn’t.
Yes, I know it was trivial, but it did irritate me and did throw me off the film.
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I have to say that it was hard for me to lose myself in American Beauty as Kevin Spacey continually set off my gay-dar.
The bad marriage thing could still work, but the crush on the teenage girl just no longer seemed plausible to me.
Not really a technical problem, just a casting decision that crumbled the fourth wall and took away from the movie (for me, at least).
Not only that, but if I remember the movie correctly, it took only about a minute (definitely not more than two minutes) for the shockwave from the sun to reach the planet.
Well, let’s see… I don’t know if a shockwave can travel the speed of light, but even if it did, that would mean that the planet was only two light-minutes away from its sun. That’s, what, a quarter of the distance 'tween Earth and our sun?
::shrug:: Maybe they had a small star in that movie…
You know, now that I think about it, that shockwave DIDN’T travel faster than light… it took about a whole second to completely engulf the planet (about 4000 kilometers wide, maybe? 5000? No more than 6000…). 6000 kilometers a second… less than 5% lightspeed.
Bah… stupid Star Trek writers… I say, for the purposes of this thread, we leave out all the Trek flubs just because there’re so damn many (in fact, Trek flubs can be a thread all their own).
SPOOFE, Starship Troopers was a spoof. No “E”. I think they couldn’t advertise it as such, because Mrs. Heinlien (sp?) would have a fit, but if you actually watch the movie it is quite obvious. And extremely funny. I enjoyed it immensely.
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Re: the 90210 crowd, there’s a great scene where hot chick #2 is in a group shower scene, and you’re thinking, “oh, it’s the obligatory shower scene where we get to see all the girls nude”, then it never shows a damn thing. Until two scenes later, of course.
Spaceballs was a spoof. Starship Troopers was a hack of crap.
In the movie Relic, there’s a scene where a character is being led through a place where there are acid baths that are de-boning various things.
Said character later hides in one for an extended period of time and undergoes no harm.
I guess acid doesn’t work on humans.
posted by SPOOFE Bo Diddly:
You’re entitled to your opinion, of course. I thought it was a spoof, and I thought it was quite funny. But if you didn’t see it, I don’t know where you’re getting your information from.
If you’re referring to the first hour (the whole bit about High School and test scores), I did see that as a “spoof”. The news bits, as well (especially the piece about the Mormon colony Joe Smith… that had me laughing in the aisles).
The problem is this… after that first hour, the rest of the movie is action/drama. Noting “spoof”-ish about it. The first half is COMPLETELY out of place relative to the second half (or vice-versa). This is another aspect of the film which just makes it obnoxious.
In either case… are we in agreement about the flubbing of the planetary crust thickness? I mean, they made it look like the mountain was made out of cardboard.
SPOOFE, I just took it as more of a bad-special-effects joke. But I can see why you got annoyed with the second half of the movie if you weren’t finding it funny anymore. Stupidity is annoying, I think we can agree on that.
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