Gorilla shot to save young boy

You’re a psychic!

The had a large moat on the inside, a a tall glass barrier on the outside. Mind you, penguins and weasels managed to escape from the non-secure areas, but there’s little chance for a small penguin seriously injuring a child.

Shutup with your facts and critical thinking! We’re trying to have a shame-a-thon here.

  1. eliminate all zoos? The last remaining wild animals on the planet are in zoos - the ones ‘in the wild’ are doomed due to climate change, encroaching on the wilderness to house and feed the 7 billion gaping human maws in the world (each one wanting their own car). AMAZON DEFORESTATION AND BURNING, ANYONE? Might as well keep animals in zoos for one good, long last look. Maybe put their DNA into frozen storage for any future generations, if any…I’ve always thought childrens books featuring animals - elephants, monkeys, lions, tigers, bears - are the kind of thing that just won’t transfer well in the future. Childrens books then will be about cell phones, kindles, texting, tweeting, twerking, nude selfies. Animals? Dogs, cats, cattle, pigs, chickens: that’s food and pets. Oh, rats, mice,cockroaches, deer, groundhogs, boa constrictors on the loose in Florida. No wild animals except food, pests, pets left in the world, so why keep writing cute books about extinct and endangered species???.

  2. Such a tragic situation all around. I feel SO much worse for the gorilla. SO much worse. Though I suppose they did what they had to do. Well, we all meet our end somehow - animals, too. That gorilla probably lived a whole lot longer in the zoo than he would have in the wild. Could have been shot by African poachers for an aphrodesiac, or a few bucks.

  3. If those f’ing parents DARED to try to sue the zoo because, special snowflake, the rascal! was in danger, I would hope and pray the judge would laugh in their faces and kick them out of the courtroom. I would LOVE to see them ordered to make reparation to the zoo for the loss of the gorilla. (Spend junior’s college fund. There’s probably something wrong with him anyway, the rascal! Hyperactive, or ADD or ADHD, on the spectrum, whatever the current vogue for messed up brains is.)

  4. Somehow, somewhere, some day - I just know it - they will write a book, or a cheapie made-for-tv-move will be made to put a few bucks in the parents pockets. I don’t know how or why, I think they are fucking negligent idiots - but it could happen. They’ll at least sell their story to a tabloid: ‘how we almost lost Special Snowflake to a wild beast!’

Probably why there is also a sign that says children must be accompanied by an adult. Cincinnati zoo gets around a million visitors a year, so if kids were regularly falling into animal enclosures we’d hear about it. The safety precautions appear to be adequate. But, according to this, 15 people have died and 110 were injured in zoo incidents since 1990. I’d expect parents to be aware that zoos aren’t 100% safe child-proofed day care centers. Yes, you *can *get into enclosures if you’re determined. That’s why the sign says don’t.

Here is some basic information for you.

You want one specific place to visit for a close look? Here. You may also want to visit Denver for a safety model.

It is very simple: if you run a facility with potentially dangerous attractions you place guest and exhibit safety as highest priorities. Next is employee safety. Then the best possible viewing experience so long as those higher priorities are not compromised. They do not need to be. It is expected that some children will be less than ideally supervised. That will occur many times every single hour the zoo is open.

As for banning zoos:

  1. Many of the animals in them were born in captivity and do not have the skills to survive in the wild.

  2. Many zoos including one I worked at take on injured animals and give them a second chance at a life.

  3. Without zoos many species would go extinct.

As for having zoos but banning people or boycotting then of course you are then taking away their biggest source of funding.
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Yes, most recently in RI just three weeks ago, and before that in NYC in December. I assure you, with the exception of the barn with sheep and goats for the wee ones to pet, there was nothing about any of the enclosures at either zoo that suggested even a dare devil child would’ve gotten into them.

If captive bred animals can’t be reintroduced to the wild, that calls into question that zoos save animals from extinction. They can’t be reintroduced to the wild, and often species go extinct due to habitat loss, so there’s no where to reintroduce them. I think most zoo animals that are allowed to breed, are bred for the zoo trade, not eventual reintroduction to the wild. Excess animals are killed, not set free.

Uh… What!!! You’re the one who claimed that

and now you’re claiming that you “dunno” whether the insurance will reimburse the zoo (as per your original claim) and shifting the onus of the proof of your claim on me?:smack:

The mom had 5 other kids with her , she run a day care . That was not very smart bring 6 small children to a zoo by yourself and they weren’t all her kids . She was trying to watch too many kids at once and this cost an innocent animal it life !

They keep some alive until maybe we figure something out? It’s better than the alternative. Just ask the dodo.

Slightly off-topic: Have any of you toured the Everglades? I was shocked to see how up close and personal you are with the gators.

In fact, I saw a mom strolling the path holding her toddler’s hand; the tyke was pulling, trying to release from her grip. A gator was just yards away. I prayed to the ogs that he not break free.
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Exactly. This isn’t exactly a wild animal-he’s lived with people for 17 years. He’s also not some hungry tiger, he’s pretty close to being human and his keepers probably communicate quite well with him. I’m sure they could have gotten the kid safely away in some way if they’d tried.

Where exactly do you think they are going to get another gorilla? There aren’t many left. Personally, I think any gorilla’s life is worth far more than any child’s life simply based on their relative rarity. Kids are a dime a dozen. Gorillas, not.

Do you tour everglades frequently or was it just a one-off? If former, could you take a camera with you next time?

Once again, you have absolutely no knowledge of gorillas, the behavior of this particular gorilla, or of the specific situation, but you believe you know better than the trained professionals who actually had to deal with the situation.

The survival of gorillas as a species was in no way threatened by the death of this particular individual. I actually work with endangered species, and I could not in any way support this statement.

Couldn’t agree more. The gorilla actually did a better job of keeping an eye on the kid than mom did. The zoo should make the moat deeper so that the gravity and darwinism can do its job for the next kid that falls in. In the perfect world the mom would’ve gotten dropped in the enclosure as a distraction, while the kid was being rescued.
Unfortunately, the whole story will be forgotten in 5 minutes, when the latest Kim Whoredasian wardrobe malfunction becomes national news.

This.

Immediately.

In fact, let all the gorillas beat the shit out of this wonderful “mom” who somehow lost her 4-year old child long enough for the kid to breach an enclosure that had not been entered in 38 years the zoo has been open.

my guess is she had her head buried into her cellphone, playing candy crush or posting a message to her facebook page, telling all of her friends what a great mom she is by taking her spawn to the zoo.

I wonder how many “You go girl!”, “You’re a super-mom!” and “thumbs-up” she got right before they shot the gorilla.

My prediction:

  1. Mom starts a “Go Fund Me” page for charitable contributions (to ease her trauma)
  2. she sues the Cincinnati Zoo for permitting her kid climb the fence and enter the enclosure.

I am amazed at the responses in here defending the mother. Did anyone read the article? Cincinnati Zoo has never had a breach of that (or any other enclosure) for 38 years. I’d say that it was a reasonably safe place to take a child. The mother and child “discussed” him going into the water. Clearly, he announced his intentions, and instead of PAYING ATTENTION TO HER KID, a gorilla is shot.

I saw a video, and that looked to me as if the gorilla was being protective. Now, that doesn’t mean the gorilla wouldn’t have ripped the kid’s arm from his body, but I didn’t see a crazed animal pounding the kid apart.

I can understand why the zoo would not want to roll the dice and take the chance. So they made the only choice they thought was an option.

Unless there is a gaping hole that this kid could walk through (aside from the one in mom’s head), I think I can confidently state that this parent wasn’t paying attention. No mention of any “dad”, so it would appear she was solely responsible.

Anyone here defending this twit either hasn’t been outside in the last 15 years, or is defending her because they have their head buried in their cellphones, too. My personal observations since it was decided from on-high that every mouth-breathing fucktard is entitled to a smart phone is that people pay little to no attention to their vile offspring(s) for large swaths of time. God knows, they can’t miss a “tweet” or check what their FB “friends” are lying about, or get the latest sports scores.

Those pics upthread with the child leashes are a perfect solution to the inattentive “parent”. Gotta love 'merica!
To paraphrase Keanu Reeves (from Parenthood). You need a license to drive a car, own a dog… Hell, you need a license to catch a fish. But they will let any asshole be a parent.

Oh Im sure that’s all she’s seething at. Not what I am sure is a mountain of abuse on Facebook, Twitter, Message Boards, or the alleged petition signed by the 80,000+ Judgy-McJudgersons who are demanding she be thrown in jail. Im guessing tons of death threats, too. Its bad enough having some lookdown their nose at you and criticize your parenting; I cant imagine the abuse she is putting up with and its natural to dog your heels.
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Well, they absolutely should.

Right. Therefore, it might be likely the only specimens left will have to live in zoos. Hopefully they can be bred to continue the species.

I can only speak for American zoos, where I imagine this practice would be highly illegal. I do acknowledge there are bad zoos around the world.

Well, that would be hard to do since only the Mom was there, shocking you missed that since you were obviously there.

Threaten the Mom with physical violence. That’s the answer to society’s problems. Take off your hairshirt.

Or she was also busy watching the kids of other parents. Which was the case. Bet you didn’t know that, did you.

Well, almost seeing your child ripped to shreds by a wild animal is pretty traumatizing. She may also have to raise money for a security system to protect her family from the idiots who have called for her to be shot once they find out her identity.

Maybe she should. It has been suggested here the zoo might not be child-proofed.

You clearly haven’t.

There’s a first time for everything.

Many kids this age are little fucking assholes and are hard to control. Even the best parents make mistakes.

Well, of course she wasn’t. She was playing Spider Solitaire on her iPhone, right?

I was outside 20 minutes ago, and I’m currently watching TV. Im not defending the mother either, but am willing to learn more about what really happened and point out parenting isn’t as easy as people claim it is here.

Your entire premise for this post is that her retarded kid jumped into the enclosure, after being told many times not to, so the mother HAD to be on her cell phone. Its ridiculous and you have no proof.

This is the dumbest post so far here, and believe me there’s been a lot of them here, including the 1 or 2 Jackasses who said the Gorillas life is more important than the child’s. I hope their kids get attacked by a wild animal and see how it feels.

neither are gorilla habitats in zoos. As was described upthread it was a concerted effort to get in.

Great, none of those come close to the barricade at the zoo which is what I was going for. And anywhere I’ve lived the highway was separated by a 4 foot fence which is easily breached. try Googling: “child, wandered on highway” and see what you get.