So Viper mutates into Venom… wasn’t Bane a product of Venom experimentation?
I also loved the scene of Bullock crying, “But it’s LUNCHTIME!” Felt like he was channelling Ralphie: “But the BELL RANG!”
Do we have any clue who Fish’s girl might be? Maybe a non-canonical interim villain, which is something we should see a dozen examples of during four or five years of show run.
Not that we have seen. We have seen them beat suspects, take bribes etc. Not just Bullock other cops too.
Yes he does.
I’m not talking about the average beat cop, but Montoya, Allen and Essen are, while not exactly white knights, not going around bashing heads or taking bribes.
At least Bullock is smart when motivated to work.
No, Montoya just reveals confidential information from an internal investigation to the suspect’s girlfriend in order to get in her pants.
That sounds like a good enough reason.
I like the show quite a bit. It’s at least as good as Agents of Shield when it first started, and it’s light years better than Arrow was and much more grown up than The Flash, while keeping just enough humor and comic book zaniness. It’s a relief when people get killed in silly ways like being tied to a weather balloon or being crushed by an ATM machine. Lightens things up a bit. Unlike the rest of the universe, I don’t really need my Batman to be quite as dark, dark, dark and brooding as the most recent Dark Knight movies make things.
I didn’t expect, or even want, costumed heroes and villains running around too much in Agents of Shield and I don’t expect that from Gotham either.
I don’t get the criticism about shoehorning lesbian subplots into every show. Guess I don’t watch the right shows. Frankly, it reminds me of the tiring tendency people have to see one gay plot in a show and they start crying, “you can’t even watch TV without gay this and gay that everywhere!” Really, count up all the shows on TV and tell me what percent have gay men & lesbians in them. If you’re going to watch sci-fi & comic books shows, you should probably expect a heaping helping of diversity. Both genres have pretty much been all over that since their beginnings.
OTOH, it’s fair to say they’re pandering a bit with Fish being all, “seduce me. Fight each other!”
It really helps the show is well cast. I’ve liked the guy who plays Gordon since I first saw him as a rookie cop in that other cop show. Forgot the name though. All the other characters I either like or at least find interesting. Maybe not all, but most. Gordon should probably lose the girl friend but I’d have a hard time giving up her apartment! She whines too much about his lying when she’s the druggie with lots of lying and secrets in her past. Gordon’s police work is really none of her business, and it’s not “lying” to not overshare every damn about things that don’t concern you.
There could maybe be a bit less Bruce & Alfred, although Alfred’s got potential. Reminds me a bit of Smallville where there were no locks on anyone’s doors and everyone would walk in and out of Luthor’s mansion for some exposition.
Penguin needs to hurry up and destroy Maroni. Gordon can’t have mobsters like that knowing his secrets. I thought Penguin was going to start building his own gang of misfits when he tried to ransom that rich kid whose parents don’t think is worth a ransom, and the three dumb guys who robbed all the money for him. Guess we’re not there yet.
I’m kinda surprised that we haven’t had any commentary since last night’s episode.
Kristen Kringle (sp?) was introduced as a new character. I was going to ask if she has a comic book counterpart, but I came across a wiki page of DC characters, and, apparently there is no correlation. But such an alliterative name must mean the character is important in a comic-book show, n’est ce pas? So, is she a brand new character, or does she link to some otherly-named DC character?
When I saw last week’s preview, I was thinking that we’d have a definite Scarecrow tie-in - the mask brought it to mind, and the fact that it’s Halloween week made me think such a storyline would be apropos. It turns out not to be the case whatsoever… or does it? Is it possible that the lady psychologist is this show’s refit of the Scarecrow character?
Or am I just batty?
At this writing, Montoya and Allen were last seen arresting Gordon and Bullock, who just finished bringing down the scary serial killer who was targeting the children of the Important People, for the “murder” of someone who is very much alive, all on the basis of a single street derelict’s word. They’re going to have their hands full maintaining police careers that do not involve filling in forms that begin “Time and Location of Parking Violation”.
I’m wondering if she’s this show’s Harley Quinn.
She was doing some kind of cutesy leg kick thing while watching her patient try to kill Bullock, which made me consider that possibility. Harley *did *start out as a psychiatrist after all.
I was wondering about that, as well, but AFAIK Harley’s last name is actually Quinn. I don’t know why I figured it would be easier to change a character’s gender rather than their last name, but that’s what I was thinking at the time.
Quinzel, actually. Harleen Quinzel.
Of the established psych villains, the Goat Mama’s more like Hugo Strange (Post-Crisis version) than Harley or Scarecrow, honestly. Controlling others’ actions is his MO, not theirs.
[Edit - also, I have to say I’m moderately surprised they went with a new villain, rather than the Court of the Owls or Religion of Crime for this story.]
Bullocks was almost not a total scumbag this ep. I’m almost tempted to say “decent.” Nah.
Montoya and Allen need to suffer a little, but I always knew they’d end up working with Gordon as the only three respectable cops in Gotham. Well I assume.
Great timing by Penguin there. He has a very entertaining delusion and obsession with Gordon. How on Earth is he going to stay alive now?
Nygma, why don’t you wave that coffee cup at the camera a little more. We don’t get it. 
It’s also the Mad Hatter’s MO, like playing dress-up with people as if they’re living dolls, plus maybe throw in an angle about kids, and a love of nifty-looking headgear.
He’s not a psychologist, though.
Mind-controlling Batman also include Spellbinder (in the comics and several animated series (though not TAS)) and Siren (in the 1966 TV series). Probably others, but they’re the only ones that come to mind, or on a quick search of the DC wikia. Of them, Strange is the only one who’s a psych(olog/iatr)ist.
Yes, and Rule One:* Find the Body*. It’s really, really hard to convict anyone of murder without a corpse. *
How the fuck they got a warrant without said Dead Body is something that can only be answered in TV dom.
*it’s been done, but you might just go to see the victims relatives to check if anyone has seen him, eh? Sloppy police work.
Oh, wow, how did I screw that up?
‘Mind-controlling Batman villains also include…’ (Obvious of course, but I had to correct it or it would bug me.)
Good ep! Cobblepot is becoming more formidable all the time. Gordon is the kind of man every man wants to be, and he even inspired his scumbag partner.
Don’t mess with Alfred’s charge.
I feel like the Penguin’s schemes are turning into too much of a Xanatos Gambit, which stretches credulity even for a series based on a comic book.
I liked the expression on Gordon’s face when Szasz ordered 50 cops out of the precinct so he could get take Gordon in. The corruption in that department runs deep.
I don’t think Bullock decided so much to be inspired, so much as he figured he was a dead man so he might as well go down in a blaze of glory. This could be a good redemption arc for him,
I seriously expected Falcone to give the ‘weapon girl’ (what’s her name?) to Szasz for a kill since he knows she’s part of Fish’s gang. I think he just likes fucking with Fish too much though. Szasz however, is perfectly creepy. I wonder if we’ll see his two associates again, or if they were throwaway assassin ninjas.
And I like more of this Alfred every time I see him.
How does Falcone know about weapon girl? Did I miss something? Cobblepot knows a lot of Fish’s plans, but does he know about weapon girl? I thought Fish got “killed” before Fish revealed her plans for the audition girls. Weapon girl isn’t long for the world though, unless she turns out to be a bit of a super villain herself. Szasz is a good, creepy villain.
Yeah, Bullocks is a total scumbag, but they suggested during the goat killer flashbacks that he started out headed towards the hero path, but his partner taught him the “no heroes in Gotham” rule.
Not sure what to think about Barbara. At first I was thinking, “see, Ms. Nosy? This is what you get when you know too much.” OTOH, she’s very brave and sticks to what she thinks is right, which helps Gordon I guess.
Looking forward to some major ass-kicking by Alfred, when the time comes. I’ve also decided they show just enough of Alfred & Bat Boy. Not too much; just enough so far.