It’s not so remarkable when the police and the civilians are just as dumb.
Anybody remember the ‘urban legend’ angle from the '90s, where Gotham’s *civilians * thought Gotham’s crooks were dumb as well as superstitious and cowardly?
The idea being (a) there is no Bat-Man; but (b) so long as crooks are dumb enough to straighten up like kids who see a Mall Santa in December, we jaded Gothamites will nod and wink and never point out that the GCPD just shines a light in the sky – and occasionally tasks a cop with dressing up in a cheap Dracula costume – at which point the crime rate plummets. What’s that? NORAD says the sleigh is now over Canada? Yes, of course it does, dear. Now go see if Tooth Fairy left you a whole dollar.
The urban legend thing was the stupidest angle they ever gave Batman.
It could work, for a little while. A year, maybe two, tops.
But 10+ years on, during which he was a member of several incarnations of the Justice League, including one of the UN-affiliated ones?
Even in a superhero universe, that’s stretching credibility.
Yes! When Fish mentioned it to Falcone while he was handling one, I actually cringed in anticipation of a neck-breaking scene (while part of my brain was wondering how realistic they’d be able to make it look).
I think for the sake of my own enjoyment, I have to mentally rewrite the Cobblepot premise:
Cobblepot was Falcone’s man all along. Falcone saw that Cobblepot was fairly bright and subtly arranged for him to become Mooney’s valet, to spy on her. Cobblepot came to hate Mooney and her goons (in part because of the “penguin” moniker). After the Waynes were killed, he became aware of Mooney’s plan to set up a patsy (suggesting possible involvement in the killing of the Waynes) and motivated by his hatred of her and her disloyalty to Falcone, rats her out to the MCU cops. He’d miscalculated, though; Falcone was well aware of the patsy plan.
Falcone views Cobblepot as too clever by half and orders Gordon to kill him. By this, he figures:
-Gordon will kill Cobblepot, giving Falcone leverage over Gordon.
-Gordon WON’T kill Cobblepot, which still gives Falcone leverage and throws a much needed scare into Cobblepot about being too clever.
When the latter happens, Falcone sneaks Cobblepot into Maroni’s organization to continue his spy work. What he doesn’t realize is Cobblepot did indeed learn from the experience and is now playing a much longer game to destroy Mooney AND Falcone.
This is how I choose to interpret the sequence of events.
It might work for a few months if Batman wants to stay hidden, but it would make more sense for him encourage the word to spread (a la the “I want you to do me a favor” line from the 1989 movie).
Yeah, there’s that, too. Not just to scare the crooks, but to let the citizens know that there’s someone out there that’s got their back.
Perhaps the “toxic waste dump over an Indian Burial ground” is actually a Lazarus Pit. The true significance of this won’t be known for several years, when Bruce"fails to save" a former(future) mentor.
Yeah, toxic waste plus Indian burial ground. Something’s going to happen there. I don’t know if this show is going to introduce any super powered beings or not. Gordon isn’t a super hero. They didn’t mention it for nothing, though.
I’m thinking the toxic waste/indian burial ground must be setup for a Lazarus Pit. Maybe they’re laying foundation for Ra’s al Ghul or something to do with Harvey Dent?
Bruce looks at least 12 to me. I’d say Nigma looks about 22-24 years old, so probably a 10-12 year age difference.
They’re willing to introduce at least marginally-superhuman characters, and drop references to future ones (e.g. Viper, with Venom specifically mentioned as the next generation of super-soldier drug development). It’s possible that they’ll hint at the Lazarus Pits, though I don’t expect them to actually have one created.
SOP for women on TV and in movies. “Let’s see. I can get out of the way, keep my head down, and try not to be a distraction or a hostage… Nah! That really doesn’t show off my devotion enough! I know, I’ll scream and cry and walk into traps and attack bad guys with my tiny impotent fists and get captured and maybe, if I’m lucky, someone will hold a gun to my head/knife to my throat and get my man to surrender to demonstrate his love!”
She thrusts her fists against her hosts and still insists we stay engrossed.
The producers have shown they are not afraid to mix things up, so why cant the Joker come out of a Toxic Waste Dump?
24’s the low end of Nygma’s age range, not the high end. Forensic science requires a 4-year degree, making a 22 year old either an absolute beginner, or a genius who got accepted to college significantly early (which we can dismiss for Nygma, because it’s not been mentioned). Since he’s well established, he’s obviously been at the department for a while.
The male villains can be older than Batman. The female ones like Catwoman and Poison Ivy have to be his age or slightly younger, or it gets weird.
I, for one, would have trouble swallowing it if we end up seeing every villain Batman is ever destined to face while Bruce Wayne’s voice is still changing. Harley Quinn, for example – I admit to not being completely up on all of the Batman villains’ backstories, but I always had the impression that she was significantly younger than both Batman and Joker. I would find it jarring to find out the opposite.
It would just seem to make a lot more logical sense if there are some future baddies we simply don’t see over the course of the series.
Harley is younger than Bruce, but how significantly younger depends which continuity and which era of that continuity.
Harley, being a qualified, if inexperienced, psychologist when she met Joker, would be in her mid-late 20s.
5 or 6 years ago, word of God was that Bruce was just on the far side of 40, making him a good decade older than Harley. Currently, he’s officially 31 (started at 25, that was 6 years ago (‘Zero Year’)), meaning he’s probably within 6 years of her, so not much of a difference, especially if she had her start not long after 0Y (although we’ve seen her origin, the timeline relative to that is unclear).
For what it’s worth, Eartha Kitt was a year-and-a-half older than Adam West.