Walker is one of many. There are several Repub governors who are doing the same thing. This is an assault on unions. hell even the NFL is trying to break their unions. Does anybody think the owners are not making a lot of money. But, they want more. They always want more. They are fucking billionaires who strongarm the tax payers into paying for their stadiums and for policing them. But we are now in the nastiest anti-union time in our history. Back when union organizers were fighting and dying to start them. people pretty neutral. The fact that corporations were happy to kill organizers slowly tipped the balance against them. We have forgotten our history.
Gosh… There you all go again confusing the organization of private industry with that of public employees.
Everybody knows that allowing public employees to collectively bargain goes against the public interest. Even Reagan could see it with his mushy disease ridden brain. Why can’t you?
The “big lie” strategy doesn’t work very well on this board. We’ve seen monomaniacs before.
40 odd posts since joining on Feb 26, almost all of them in this thread.
Don’t you think it’s time to get back to work Mr. Walker? Maybe you can track down those pesky missing Senators yourself!
That could be the worst Appeal to Authority of all time.
And you haven’t answered my question, yet.
To the contrary. Collective bargaining by public employees promotes the public interest. It’s just that simple.
Of course… Using public money confiscated from public employees to fund political campaigns then having the same politicians negotiate with the same public employees is always a great idea.
Until you remove private money from the election process, it IS a good idea. ALL special interests bribe the politicians.
As usual, it’s “it’s bad when your guys do it and quit trying to change the subject by pointing out that our guys do too.”
We should just make all workers public employees, don’t you agree?
That’s just as retarded as your earlier statement. Accusing people who disagree with you of being closet communists doesn’t exactly advance your rhetorical standing.
So if I read between the lines correctly, you’re asserting that public-worker unions are bad because unions generally contribute to politicians and that represents a conflict of interest when those unions later negotiate with selfsame politicians for their benefits/wages, correct?
I suppose we could end the argument with public financing of elections. No union money. No corporate money. We would cut the cost dramatically and shorten the running time…
Of course that will not happen. You realize who gets the bulk of the 2 billion going into elections ,don’t you? TV and also radio, it would be hard to get it through. It is not about right and wrong. It is money.
You had to read between the lines to get that? Seriously??
Well, when there is so little substance to work with in the first place, reading between the lines is really necessary, otherwise there is nothing to comment on.
You should be flattered.
What is funny is many of you liberal academic types defending unions will never make near the money the union people will.
Your doctorate and eight years of education don’t mean shit to a union plumber or electrician (who you look down on until your wet bar springs a leak or your ceiling fan quits working) who makes 100K plus a year.
Keep defending us in the trades. We smile all the way to the bank. Thank you.
And the public sector people too ala the Wisconsin thing. Keep giving us money.
We will take care of you.
Is this post supposed to be ironic? Or sardonic? Or iconoclastic? Or what?
Because it’s coming across as being idiotic.
That’s fine. Do you think there’s an equal conflict of interest in allowing corporation owners, who are affected by the regulations and tax laws that those same politicians pass, donate to political campaigns as well? Or are you a hypocrite?
I don’t know what the hell your point is, but I’ve been arguing for YEARS that IT Administration/Infrastructure would be much better served in the long run by moving to a “trades” model with apprenticeships and technical training etc. rather than degrees.
I’m finally convinced now - that most of the posters on this board are complete idiots. :rolleyes:
Why does everyone here have such a difficult time distinguishing public employees from private industry?
Really? Because I’m in Computer Science education, and I think there’s real merit to Zeriel’s position. I don’t fully agree with it, but neither would I blithely dismiss it.