Background check for initial sale, only at dealers. Which gives you almost zero idea where it might be now. You’d need enough feds to raid and search 80 percent of homes in America to even make a dent by that method. It makes no sense to try.
I’m just blown away that several posters think there’s no fundamental difference between rights/laws that prohibit slavery (say), and rights/laws that regulate (or fail to regulate) owning bits of metal and powder. I honestly had no idea this was part of the conservative mindset, until I saw the correlation appear in this thread.
The political landscape would have to change so drastically in order for an attempt at this type of confiscation to take place that trying to guess what will happen is pointless.
Several states would have been in open defiance of the federal government by this time, if not completely seceded. Incremental gun laws would have been passed along the way, perhaps limiting the manufacture and private sale of all powerful weapons. Black market manufacture of powerful weapons will result in powerful gun cartels that operate in defiance of the US govt. Basically, a hellscape will already exist. A shootout with the cops wouldn’t make the news.
True, but that’s a justification often actually, seriously presented (including by a Doper or three) for buying AR-15’s. Tell them.
It’s a hellscape, but one that is not impossible.
I’m not against someone buying AR-15s, and if such political changes occurred, I may have to acquire some illicitly manufactured guns myself depending on my location at the time.
Why go door to door? Just declare financial sanctions against gun owners who do not voluntarily turn them in. Size bank accounts, IRAs, Social Security benefits, tax refunds, revoke drivers licenses and car registrations. Make their life miserable until they comply.
Then gun owners would just turn in their legally-registered guns, while using 3D printers to manufacture un-registered and unknown guns at home, or buying un-traced guns from others who do use such 3D printers.
Perhaps you could lay out for us a *plausible *chain of events that would lead to it. *Any *fantasy is “not impossible” if you use enough imagination.
I’m good with that. Have you seen printed guns? Their mean time before failure is pretty low.
If my plan reduced the number of gun owners by 50%, I would consider it a smashing success.
Pun intended?
Great, and if those guns ever come out in public, or if they are ever used, their owners can can go to jail.
just a nitpick really…they didn’t raid individual homes looking for booze. During Prohibition it wasn’t illegal to own alcohol, it was illegal to sell it. So, if you had a bunch of booze from before Prohibition it was completely legal for you to drink it in your own home. If you tried to sell it, however, then you’d be in trouble. So, they would raid places where alcohol might be manufactured or being sold, not individual homes looking for booze.
How do you know which bank accounts to seize?
I believe the theory is that resistance could work if it was a widespread movement. If a few dozen gun owners defend their guns by shooting at the authorities, they’ll be overwhelmed by superior force and numbers. But if millions of gun owners did it, then it would be the authorities who would be outnumbered.
Or who has the guns? The first task that will need to be done is to hit every FFL dealer and get ther 4473 forms and bound books. That takes time and lots of national attention.
“Yes, officer I bought a squirrel gun back in '06 from Joe’s Shoot 'n More. I sold it.”
So, in addition to getting rid of that pesky Second Amendment, we’ll also be ditching the Fifth Amendment (“nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”).
Ghost guns - made out of metal and plastic just like official serial numbered factory produced guns made by mechanically inclined pro or hobby gunsmiths. As I pointed out, give me machine tools and I can crank out ghost guns, with limited to Home Depot plumbing supplies and some ingenuity, I can crank out good quality zip guns. At this point in time, I would not go with either thermoplastic or sintered metal printed guns.
+1. 3D printing gets all the attention because it’s trendy, but people have been “making” higher quality guns at home in their garages for decades. It’s not really been an issue.
I’ll also mention that it is perfectly legal to make a gun at home as long as it is not sold to another party. Many seem to get real bent out of shape on that law. This whole “ghost gun” BS is nothing new.
Despite it’s lack of ability in home machines to actually make useful durable parts for anything.
My CNC machine on the other hand …
Due process would be present.