Wow, that joke was especially funny the second time.:rolleyes:
Now we are getting somewhere. I can recall hearing this construction in the Scottish dialect.
My guess is that many colloquilisms developed from close-knit immigrant communities in the 19th and 20th centuries. One didn’t stray far from his or her community. As all members of the new community were struggling with a new language, mistakes will stick. Therefore, certain phrases were probably passed along within the community and then handed down to subsequent generations.
Although colloquilisms are most often regional, particularly when the particular ethic group arrived in the earlier waves of immigration, I have heard differences between sections within the same city. Usually among groups that arrived in the early 20th century.
In the ethnic section of the city where my father grew up, there are phrases and pronunciations that I never heard anywhere else. The next generation moved away from the neighborhood, but have taken these colloquilisms with them. Once removed from the region, city, or section, the colloquilisms eventually fade away.
But if you wish to sell your product for the highest bid possible would you not leave out all regionalisms that both detract from the understandability of your add and make you sound like some hick from Akron, Pittsburg, or, for God’s sake, Scotland? Is standard English so hard?
(Wait, need to throw in my first smiley since my return to possibly deflect any anger from the Akronians, Pittsburgers, and Scots who might not yet know to not take me seriously) 
FTR, I lived for a year between Akron and Cleveland and never heard that construction. I would remember it, too, as it just grates on me.
If you’re going to talk about the grammatical hell that is Pittsburgh, its name needs spelld right.
Feh and double feh! If they can’t be bothered to spell the town’s name in Standard American English I’m not going to be bothered to spell it “right.”
I say “needs washed.” I also pronounce “washed” as “whooshed.” Never “worshed” though- I’m not country.
Can’t we just call it an elliptical phrase and all get along?
when come back you need bring pie.
Certainly a form used in Scots:
And that’s at the very least a dialect, if not a language proper, so not just used by “hicks” 
Embra (hick Scot)
Needs must as the grammarians drive.
Well, I’m always up for a challenge… 
Note: The caffeine from my 1.25L of bubble tea I had on Saturday night has all dissipated… I put “Fuckasstardstickhatass” through the Internet Anagram Server at Wordsmith site.
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Jesus, you trying to crash the boards again or something?
There were WAY too many anagrams for the character limit on this forum to handle, so I give you more of them…
Enjoy!
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What a waste of bandwidth. I would be more amazed if she had comeup with those on her own, and not used an anagram generator.
(sigh) And now back to our regularly scheduled thread.
I HATE the “car needs washed” thing. It sounds like something the monster from Frankenstein would fucking say. “Arrrhh. Car needs washed. Arrrhh.” I think this was discussed a few months back, and someone said that Rhode Islanders and some of those other little Eastern states do it. I could never reside in those states for this simple reason. The grammar butchers need fucked.
Nah… I saw a challenge, and wanted to see just how many anagrams could be made out of that word. Besides, those are all the anagrams possible… at least, according to that site.
Since this is the Pit and all: I don’t fucking care about your personal views on my use of bandwidth here in this particular thread. You’re entitled to your opinion, of course… but being the Nazi I am, I took the liberty of inserting a space in between “come” and “up” in the quote above.
Besides, it sitll gives the appearance of one who’s still hopped up on a buncha caffeine. So beware…
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I’m with this school of thought. Also, I do a lot of technical writing as part of my job (environmental investigations) and even if a phrase is “technically” correct, it could still get booted from a document due to it sounding and looking awkward.
And that phrase “needs washed” etc, just leaves a bad taste.
I’m going to have to agree with the OP - it’s wrong, regardless of whether common usage makes it more acceptable.
However, English is a fluid language - and sometimes that makes me sad, since it just goes to prove that ignorance = lazy.
IMHO, that is.
Esprix
Listen, pilgrim, 'round these parts, we prefer to
[quote from the master]
(http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_250.html), y’hear?