Down is Divine Creation from its beginning. Surely, when God created the heavens and the earth, His act of Separation caused the Earth to be Down. For the Lord divided the waters under the firmament from the waters above the firmament on the first day – Genesis 1:7-9.
The word “Down” is used in the KJV 1131 times. Guess how many times the word gravity is used? 2, but not in the right context.
I need no other proof of Downness. And therefore, gravity must be the work of the devil.
Also, the search for I believe what the “scientists” call the “gravity force exchange boson” will only serve to give the Antichrist a foothold in our World. For, if you take the words “gravity force exhcange boson” and translate them into the original Aramaic, and translate the letters into numbers, and add up the numbers, guess what you get? 333. That is half the number of the beast. And you guessed these theories have each side exchanging one of these newfangled bosons, making 666. This proves that gravity is not only the work of Satan, but it is itself an manifestation of the Beast.
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If the Law of Gravity were actually a natural law, we would see it in nature, wouldn’t we? But what is used as evidence for the Theory of Gravity? Galileo’s dropping balls of different weights of a tower! Do balls of differing weights normally fall off towers? No! So how can this clearly unnatural event be used as evidence of a natural process? The fact that gravitists don’t even see this flaw in their logic shows how wedded they are to their paradigm.
I would definately not use the Bible as proof of any theory, simply because you can’t mix scientific method with blind faith. If I were to attempt to prove downism, I would bring up examples such as singularities and how gravity no longer works as a theory on a subatomic level. However this does not support downism… rather simply disproves general relativity’s description of gravity. How would one support downism in a scientific manner? One would have to say the ‘down’ is a different direction for every particle/object, because not every object moves strictly one direction. Objects change direction, so there must be forces that alter the object’s ‘down’… then you jump right back into the world of more widely accepted physics. But of course… things DO fall down… I mean… the center of the universe is much more massive then the earth or sun, and the gravity force carrier can travel over seemingly infinite distances, why don’t I fall up? toward the sun of the center of the universe?
-ps harold
(if anyone doesn’t know the answer to that question and wants to… just ask)
Gravity allows us to ‘weigh’ the sun by observing the effects it has on the surrounding masses. There are also other methods of weighing the sun, but I can’t think of them off the top of my head.
Gravity lets us hrm… but you don’t believe gravity…
The context I was using it in assumed truth in gravity for the sake of arguing (against?) it. Either way this argument won’t change the way I fall down… so why should I care if what I think is down is really up?
PS_harold, gravitist by faith and science as well
Eutychus: Of course there is up and down in outer space! You just don’t believe in Downism, and that’s why you are saying such ridiculous things!
Meanwhile, ps_harold said:
Ha! So you are trying to use your conclusion (gravity) to “prove” your claim. That, my boy, is circular reasoning, and will not be tolerated here! The only way to weigh the sun is with a scale. Don’t try to get around it!
Sure, like I said. You assumed the truth of gravity. Must be nice. Who knows what you’ll be assuming next!
How do you know it won’t change the way you fall down? I suggest an experiment in which you fall off of increasingly large buildings, checking to make sure that you fall down each time. Report back to me with your findings, and then we’ll talk.
I would definately not use the Bible as proof of any theory, simply because you can’t mix scientific method with blind faith.**
Harold, Harold, Harold, you just don’t understand!
You seen, Downism is true, it’s the ultimate Truth! It’s all based on the Holy Book. The Holy Book is the EXACT WORDS of the Divine One. How do I know this to be true? It say so, right here in the Holy Book. You can’t get any plainer than that! The Divine One has spoken and told us, thru the Holy Book, how the world operates.
Anything else is the work of the Great Invisible Boogey Man who tests our faith in the Divine One by spreading all these false “theories” about gravity and other nonsense. And if you don’t believe me, go outside and look. It’s very obvious that the world doesn’t move. It’s the center of the Universe and everything else goes around it. How can you deny that!? Do you feel the earth move? No. Do you see the stars and those “planets” move? Yes. Therefore it’s obvious, Downism is the correct way to view the world. It’s all part of the Divine One’s plan.
You need to read the many wonderful papers by Jack Chickpea who can explain it in very simply language. And the artwork that he uses to illustrate his points, oh Jack is a very talented man. And all of his papers are bases on the Holy Book, so they HAVE to be true.
The citation you are looking for is from a questionable author by the name of Douglas Adams, but nonetheless shows that even such heathens needs must concede Downist principles.
*note: I wanted to quote the entire Guide entry on the subject of flying, but it is rather long. If some moderator feels that it is flirting dangerously with the edges of fair use, feel free to trim it.
Many of you seem to have forgotten the one true rule of the universe… the reason we don’t fly off of this flat plate, that extends infinitly in all directions, is the simple fact that Grhgtrhoshtoeohg doesn’t want us to.
The ancient people worshipped Grhgtrhoshtoeohg but that worship was put down by the early Gravitists and Downists. Worship of Grhgtrhoshtoeohg continued, but in quiet… now the tenents of the old faith can be open, but we must be careful, as the Downists and the Gravitists would like to start burning us again…
And I know that I’m right, cause I read it in a book from a musty old book store, with lots of old books in it, and my mom and grandma were all practicing Grhgtrhoshtoeohgites
Much as I think the addition of a poor ol’ naive newbie has been hilarious, in the interests of fightin’ ignorance an’ all that:
harold - noone here believes in ‘Downism’. There is no such belief as ‘Downism’. This thread has sprung up to satirically parallel the arguments, epigrams, incorrect assumptions and misunderstanding that Creationists and other such animals use. Some of those posting in this thread to support Downism have advanced degrees in physics. They are taking the piss*.
I have no doubt that this post will be followed by the jeers of those who wanted to continue the joke and by the shocked posts of those who can’t believe that anyone would suggest that Downism isn’t true. To these people I can only say, “Gentlemen - I salute you”. Please return to your exciting cross-exhange of ideas.
But my guilt-o-meter was beginning to twinge.
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*To use a phrase that 98% of Americans won’t know. It means that they are pulling your leg.
Heretic! People have been burned at the stake for suggesting less than this. You’re just lucky we live in a time when that isn’t allowed anymore – though I wish the government were more enlightened about it and just let us do our necessary work!
This is no joke, man! But that was a nice try – acting like any objections to your message were less than serious, and thus trying to get away with your claims. Did you really think we’d let you off so easily?
I think ps_harold HAS caught on.
He posted ‘I would definitely not use the Bible as proof of any theory, simply because you can’t mix scientific method with blind faith.’
Sounds sound to me.
Am I right, ps_harold?
And to keep the thread going (I loved Guy Stuff ):
‘Some of those posting in this thread to support Downism have advanced degrees in physics.’
Are you taking qualifications over evidence? I see hot-air balloons * moving sideways in the air. This is why I’m a Lateralist. Even though I don’t have a physics qualification…
as someone said earlier, who’d use a cold-air balloon?
Beware the Antigrav, for although he appeareth normal and weighted as of a man, verily doth he float and spread lies, innuendo and bad things! Lo, worship not the false idol of Uppityness, for that which risith must also cometh down. Forsooth." Limbaugh 2:25
Holy crap, there is NO downism? I refuse to believe it… if i believe that I will surely end up falling into the center of the galaxy, and surely that would be bad.
I also think any satire of this nature is incomplete unless you include an argument with someone who is a non-believer and how his arguments are responded to
ps_harold, converted gravitist
(of course i knew this post was a joke after the first reply to it, however the manner in which the posts were so convincingly stated and so close to how extreme creationist might attmept to prove a theory such as ‘downism’ made me wonder if I was simply in a room full of idiots who knew how to write… I was leaning towards the other explaination though)
Although I am convinced by the constantly evolving gravatist theory, in fact some have called me a "fundamentalist gravatist, You should not take downism or its followers as a joke.
You will at least draw the ire of David B, who although IMHO is misguided on this, issue is no fool.
In order to fight ignorance it is not sufficient to be simply dismissive and hope downism just become eztinct.
Downist power structures have been arround for many generations and their leaders do not wish to loose the power they have over their congregations, even when their claims are shown as bogus. If they loose their flock, they loose their income stream.
You can’t fall into the center of the galaxy, if you are already standing on its surface.
The Supreme Being created the heavens above, and the earth below.
This is the core tenet of Downism. At least Fundamentalist Downism, of which I am a subscriber.
Those who accept that the Great One descended into death for the Downness of all who will come after him will be guaranteed a place in heaven above.
But the Great One descended for the Downness of all humanity, even for those who do not accept him, is the reason you don’t go floating off into space.
Downism has caught on so well, I’m inclined to think I should patent it or copyright it or trademark it or register it, or whatever one does with a new concept.
Maybe I can quit my day job and go on TV as a televangelist? Would thousands of lonely people send me money, to support Downism?
But, I have to say, that replacing (ahem) gravity with levity has always been one of my fundamental wossnames.
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I see hot-air balloons * moving sideways in the air. This is why I’m a Lateralist. Even though I don’t have a physics qualification…