I wash about 40 times a day also, and use Eucerin Cream in the tub (or the Walgreen’s knock off brand). It’s very thick and waterproof, and (hi Opal) lasts a long time. Creams are thicker than lotions.
IDBB I’m not backing down from my drama queen comment. I still think you’re making this into a “situation” when it’s really not. All you have to do is bring in your own soap. Your boss doensn’t have to even know about it. The conflict you’re grasping so desperately at does not exist!
If someone were to tell me that they got fired from a fast food joint because they were allergic to the handsoap provided, I would keel over laughing because that is so beyond ridiculous. Then I would ask why they just didn’t bring in their own soap. And if they answered “gee, I never thought about that, I just went straight to the manager and made a big honkin’ deal about it…” I would’ve probably thought them to be a gigantic moron.
You say that you weren’t even going to say anything until your coworker noticed you scratching your hands. The hell? Why are you suffering silently? Bring in your own soap, problem solved. These are the kinds of things that lead me to believe you are a huge drama queen. Why prolong pain when there is an easy way to stop it? But you didn’t take that easy way, you just kept on suffering until you got attention from it. Classic drama queen behavior.
It boils down to this: there is no need to say anything to your manager. There’s just not. If you do, you’re just trying to create drama. Just bring in your own damn soap and use it. I’m 99.9% sure he won’t even notice (unless you make a big deal out of it). :rolleyes:
but she’s ALLERGIC…TO THE SOAP…
oh…
what?
Ca3799, do you work in foodservice/medical field? Because if no, that is a LOT of handwashings; it almost seems obsessive-compulsive.
I’d say I wash my hands maybe twice a day; once immediately before work, and once immediately before dinner. I suppose I’m fortunate to have durable skin or something, because I never need/use moisturizers, lotions, or skin creams.
Incubus - you don’t mention washing your hands after urinating/defecating. Hoping you forgot mentioning that, vs. don’t do it.
People who have direct contact w/members of the public (any large public office setting, restaurants, stores etc.) often do wash their hands more often than others (at a large office I’m at, we have hand sanitizers all over the place).
Years ago when I worked @ a different pizza establishment, a girl I worked with developed an allergy to the soap we used. Her skin turned red and bumpy. She realized what was irritating her and came back with her own soap the next day. Just a bar of dove in a tiny little container. This girl was 16. At sixteen years old she was smart enough to realize…HEY! this is not working, I’ll fix it.
For christ’s sake. Just bring your own soap.
Because it is an annoyance and annoyances I can learn to live with.
lez–I am NOT trying to create drama.I’m just trying to stay out of sight and silent so I don’t do something stupid and lose my job.Nobody would’ve known how annoying this allergy is except for the fact I got caught scratching.
I also didn’t want to get in trouble,either with Mr.Hamad,the store owner or the Health Dept for bringing in non-regulation soap, which I figured MIGHT just get me fired. I didn’t know.I’d rather ask a stupid question and find out what I need to know than go around doing something I assume is correct and get in trouble because I didn’t know the right thing from the wrong thing.
Damn.
IDBB
IDBB, I’ve only been here a short time. (please hear me out, I promise this has a point). I feel like I know you, I have a daughter about your age, and I feel badly for you and the things that seem to be so hard for you in your life. But I’ve read almost every pit thread you’ve started here. I have to agree with lezlers and Manda Jo regarding your drama queen tendencies. To a certain extent.
I think you are a decent, nice and intelligent young women. But based on all the threads you’ve written (sorry, make that that I’ve read), that contain this same “self-defeating” attitude. I have to agree with what another poster said here “you’re making a mountain out of a molehill”.
From your “princess-y MIL/SIL” thread, to your refusal to “whore yourself out” to temp agencies, I’ve read your threads and sympathized with you. But I’ve noticed you don’t seem to notice, or take heed of the excellent advice given to you by people like Manda Jo and lezlers.
I don’t think you really ARE a drama queen. You seem to be a young women who is somewhat uncertain of her identity, personality and place in life as yet. And as such, you find discomfort in many things and situations. You bring those situations here, but they aren’t really rants persay, they more appear to be cries for help as is evidenced by the “All is lost/nothing can help” flavor of many of them.
IDBB, I think that your intelligence and niceness is a good addition to a community like this one, but the things that you are bringing to the pit, might be better helped at a community of a different sort (if I’m not mistaken, SDMB is more for exchange of information than a social thing, though I understand that dopeflings are to die for?).
I’m thinking that perhaps if you had some outside (non judgmental people) who didn’t know you in real life on a support board, you might have an easier time dealing with and coming to grips with the things that are bothering you and making your life difficult. I’m NOT saying “leave SDMB”. I’m not saying “never post in the pit”.
I’m saying find a second outlet, a more sympathetic one, one that could help you on a daily (shoot, hourly if you needed it) basis with the issues that you face (I know of some, and could provide addy’s if you’d like?).
I hope that helps, and I hope it didn’t sound terrible, it wasn’t meant in any way to put you down etc, but to try and help.
IDBB, with all due respect, you’re really stretching yourself here. Non-regulation soap? Is this a military establishment?
You misunderstood my comment about suffering silently. I meant it in the context of suffering silently and waiting to get noticed and thus recieving the attention you so desperately seek out on a regular basis, or just bring in your own damn soap, fix the problem and quit suffering.
I really think you should heed Canvasshoe’s advice. I’ve tried the gentle route with you before, trying to help you, and you’ve ignored me, so I’m not wasting my keystrokes on that route anymore. For what it’s worth through, I really do hope you finally get some help, because IMHO, you’ve got some issues. Quite blaming your problems on everyone else and everything else, and take control of your life. No one’s going to do it for you.
And I apologize profusely for the incessant use of comma’s in my previous post. It’s an addiction, those, comma’s, just, can’t, stop, using, them…
As long as you put a space after them (and periods), all’s cool.
<COUGH>IDBB<COUGH>
I got bored tofay at work. So I read this thread that’s been in the pit for a bit. WOW! Am I missing something?
I don’t know what the hell is going on, I mean I guess IDBB is terrified at losing her job. To me, that’s a huge deal. So some of you don’t think that her fears are justified. Fine. She’s still scared of losing her ONLY MEANS OF SUPPORT. Are you discounting it becasue she works in fast food? Are you discounting it because you see it as being a simple problem with a simple solution. Perhaps as IDBB has mentioned, she feels that any little thing can trigger her being fired. THAT WOULD BE DAMN SCARY.
If you think her fears are unfounded then fine, but to treat her as if she isn’t truly scared of losing her only means of support is bitchy and just plain mean.
Well, BBJ, there’s something of a backstory here. The OP has rubbed some folks the wrong way, and has been pigeonholed by those folks as a whiny-ass drama queen. Thus, any thread she starts gets a full complement of posters telling her she’s a whiny-ass drama queen, or an attention whore, or some other similarly charming appellation.
Yes, it’s bitchy, and it’s often rather mean (or at least mean-spirited).
BBJ,
Her husband has a job. They have a fairly nice, childless, middle class lifestyle (from her previous threads) and should she be unemployed, it means giving up things like cable tv and Netflix. Not winding up on the street starving.
Which doesn’t mean that their isn’t a certain amount of cattiness (sorry CCL) that happens when IDBB opens up another pit thread. Or that IDBB has done nothing (starting with that horrible user name - sorry IDBB, but I can’t get past that user name that screams “Immature Sixteen Year Old” to me every time I read it - which isn’t the best image to give these particular boards) to bring the cattiness onto herself. By now, she has enough experience with the Pit to know what she is getting herself in for when she opens one of these - and no one is forcing her to hit the “new thread” button.
It also doesn’t mean that the risk to her job isn’t traumatic for her.
IDBB, I’ve been a fast food manager for as long as I can remember. If an employee were to come to me and tell me he/she was allergic to the handsoap, I’d order a different brand. If one weren’t available to order, I’d grab $5 out of store cash and head to Walmart. Technically, it falls under management’s responsibility to find an acceptable alternative. And hey, if the employee were to bring in his own alternative, well that’s one less thing for me to worry about. If you’re worried about it being non-regulation, check with the GM. That way, it becomes his problem. Ask for his input. Also, I assure you, the BOH is not going to shut the place down if the wrong soap is on hand for one employee. At worst, an inspector would give him a slap on the wrist, and tell him to get a new soap. It wouldn’t be the deciding factor in a store closing, unless the place was pretty bad off to begin with.
A few months ago, I realized I was allergic to the powder inside the latex gloves we use at work. I went to Walmart, picked up a hypoallergenic box, and took it in. The next time my DM was in the store, I brought it to her attention. “Oh by the way Carolyn, the gloves we order from Sygma make me break out. I got these for me to use instead. Is that cool?” If for whatever reason they weren’t acceptable, it was now her decision to make.
And, I’m 99% certain you won’t be fired over soap. Depending on the intensity of your store’s training, it can cost anywhere from $500 to $1500 to hire a new employee, by the time you factor in orientation costs, uniforms, meals, and training hours. If your manager has a clue, he’ll see the $3 bottle of soap as a cheap alternative.
As far as washing hands that often, especially for a cashier, it’s really not that unusual a requirement.
Money is filthy. I used to have to wash my hands on every break on busy days when I worked at Disneyland in Merchandise because my fingertips were grey from handling the stuff.
Blech.
BBJ,
Do a search on IDBB’s threads. You’ll see why she gets some of the responses she does.
And I’ve been nice to IDBB. I’ve given her advice, i’ve been sympathetic, and you know what? If it’s not what she wants to hear (and what she wants to hear apparently is nothing but justification for whatever her bitch of the week is) she totally ignores it. Doesn’t even aknowledge it. I was actually suprised that she even adressed both my and Manda Jo’s comments, that’s pretty uncharacteristic of her. So yeah, I may come across as catty towards her, but it’s for a reason.
BBJ, Most of us who are familiar with IDBBs posts are not posting the things we do in order to be mean, or derail an honest rant.
I hope I’m not speaking out of turn for lezlers or Manda Jo, or some of the others who may (if you are only basing your assumptions upon this One thread), appear to be berating IDBB for no reason, but we are honestly trying to help IDBB.
If we truly felt she were a troll or attention whore, she wouldn’t consistantly GET the responses from people that she does.
I truly apologize if I have sounded “catty” to IDBB. I honestly care about her and her feelings, and it doesn’t seem as if her postings here in the Pit help HER much. Hence I offered her addys of some online advice and/or social communities that might fit her needs better. And others, particularly Manda Jo (who is excellent at advice anyway) have offered her much good advice on all the thing about which she complains.
SDMB doesn’t seem to be, at it’s heart, a social gathering place type forum, but more of a brainstorming session regarding exchange of info, with the pit (as it says) being the melting pot for bitch sessions.
IDBB’s needs seem to be more along the lines of needing a social outlet. And there is nothing at ALL wrong with that. Sorry, I’m babbling (it’s the pain meds, hehe).
I think that when we, those of us who seem to derail IDBBs rants, do that, that what we are trying to do is steer her in a direction that will help her, so that she can come here and post in SDMB with more of a relaxed and confident feeling about herself and more for the intended purpose of SDMB.
And IDBB, (sorry about talking about you third person here), I apologize for taking this thread as the opportunity to say all this, but I really am doing it out of caring about you (despite that I may not be wording it well), and I just had to try.
Again, if you’re interested, email me, I know of one site in particular that might be just up your alley.
Let this fall under the consideration then. We GET no employee meals (no free food/drinks/etc here) and from what I’ve heard,he has a stack of unused uniforms sitting in the warehouse of his OTHER Sonic(he’s the GM for two apparently…ours and one in Dallas…though I don’t know if it’s a stand-alone or a mall foodcourt one). There WAS no orientation,per se. It was “OK…you showed up on time.Good.Here’s what you do for now.” No sitting down watching company-sponsored videos on safety,training,etc etc etc. There WERE no training hours. I just showed up and they attempted in their own way,through a mixture of Spanish,some garbled English and home-made sign language to show me what I’m supposed to do.
Actually if I didn’t have a job,after about 4 mos. that’s EXACTLY where we would end up. On the streets living out of the back of my husband’s car(an older model PT cruiser if you must know…the monthly payment was cheaper than that of his 2 year old Pontiac convertible,which he dearly loved). Yes we live a fairly nice,middling-class childless lifestyle but it is as dependant on MY paycheck as it is on his.Yes he brings in the bulk of the money but I bring in enough to keep us afloat,able to enjoy the things we like to enjoy (such as cable, internet, etc.)
I talked to Mr.Hamad on Monday and it’s alright if I bring in my own soap. I just have to label it, I think.
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I’m sorry if my name makes you think of an immature 16 y.o. It’s the only name I could think of when the original username I’d picked out turned out to be taken (CrackedCakeBride). I happen to like bad guys in movies just as much as I like the good guys, often times more. Also, growing up I really was into the heavy-metal hairband scene and the lead singers were often perceived as ‘bad boys’. [/hijack]
Thank you, Dangerosa, for saying that. I am terrified that every shift I work will be my last for stupid things like being allergic to soap. I have been ever since that day that Mr. Hamad called me into his office and told me I could be fired at the drop of a hat like he didn’t give a rat’s ass. EVERYTIME I clock in, I wonder if I"ll get called into the office and told to turn in my uniform. I am scared to death to get fired because not only would that mean a black mark on my employment record (because I can’t afford any more black marks on it right now…long story) but it would mean I could possibly be out of work for months and we could lose everything we’ve worked so hard for over the last four years.
I didn’t post it to be bitchy (well ok…part of me posted it to be bitchy). I posted it out of genuine fear (of losing my job) and out of anguish (at the allergy itself).
I’m sorry if you guys thought I posted it just to whine and be a drama queen. I did not.
IDBB
I’m alergic to a lot of soaps, too. I find that the ivory liquid soap is pretty good. At work, where I have no choice of soap, I rinse, rinse, rinse. Then I rinse again. Make sure you get under any rings, etc. that you may wear.
Cortisone (sp?) cream is a pretty good treatment for when things get bad.