Don’t get on my case about gender PCness. In the time frame I’m talking about, women were too oppressed to use swords.
Pre-rennaisance, who was the greatest swordsman in history?
I don’t really nee a DEFINITIVE answer, just someone who I can pawn off as the greatest.
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Pre-rennaisance? Does it have to be historically accurate? Or are you going to allow a little leeway in exaggeration? 
How about Lancelot? At least he’s a fairly well-known figure, renowned for his prowess in single-hand combat.
Some leeway is allowed;I just have to pass him off that’s all.
Widely regarded as one of the best… would suffice nicely
As for Lancelot, it has to be real… no fiction.
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If you’re not restricting yourself to European swordsman, then Mayamoto Mushashi is widely regarded in Japan as the best swordsman who ever lived. He was so good that he quit using a real sword, and instead used a bokken, a wooden practice sword, to avoid killing all the boneheads who wanted to take him down. He wrote a book called “The Book of Five Rings” or something like that; a book of strategy for every situation.
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PERFECT!! That’s exactly who I want… now, where can I find a bio of him?
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Out of curiosity I did a search for a bio of the writer of “The Book of Five Rings”. I found it pretty quickly. I would post the link, but I think you should do your own homework. 
To help you out though the correct spelling is Miyamoto Mushashi.
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Miyamoto Musashi was born around 1584. Does that count as pre-Rennaisance?
The Renaissance (approx 1350-1650 AD) was a period generally applied to Western civilization as opposed to the Shogun period of Japan about that time.
Strictly as a time frame, Mushashi lived during that span of the Western Renaissance. The cultural influence of the Renaissance was pretty much irrelevant in the Japan of that era, short of incidental trade contacts with certain European nations.
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Warren ZevonI think we all know that Japan wasn’t exactly in touch with Europe during the Renaissance, but it’s the original poster who sets the criterion
I think our best bet in finding a great swordsmen in pre-Renaissance times would be in China. There must be a load of them, but I can’t think of a really great one off the top of my head. It seems most warriors preferred spear-like weapons with a longer reach as they are more suitable for horseback combat.
Now if you allow swordswomen in the discussion, there was the lady who excelled in using double swords. I forgot her name, but she was a general in the famous Yang family during the Sung Dynasty. Just about everyone from her mother and father inlaw, her husband, her husband’s borthers and sisters and spouses were all generals :eek: After she gave birth to her first son, she went straight back into battle with the kid strapped on her back. Back in those days, good generals didn’t sit on a hill and watch the battle, they were right up there in the front lines dicing up their enemies, and that’s what this lady did. Want to guess what became of her son? Yep, another general in the family 
In order to pick the greatest swordsman, we need to know what type of sword you are asking about, and which culture you are dealing with. Greco Roman, Viking, Celtic, Persian,Chinese, Japanese Egyptian, Meso American etc etc.
Also, are we talking a real person, or would a mythical character fit your need?
There are broad swords, hand and a half swords, two handed swords, straight ones curved ones, single edge, double edge…
Then you have material, copper, bronze, alloys, iron, steel. Not to mention wood, horn and bone implements from earlier periods. Pre rennaisance is a large period of time.
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Lancelot isn’t fictional. I saw him on TV once.
Alexander the Great reputedly fought his way to the top of a walled city, and then in a fit of exasperation when his troops failed to follow him, jumped inside the walls. He essentially fought off the enitre garrison singlehandedly with his sword and shield until he was rescued, just before falling unconscious from loss of blood. Check for the full details in Arrian’s The Campaigns of Alexander and Keegan’s The Mask of Command.
Here’s the short version from Keegan:
Alexander put himself at the head of a small scouting party and rushed the wall. He got to the top, found himself cut off and had to fight for his life. Over-exposed on the crest of the wall, he leapt down inside, put his back to the mudbrick beside a small fig tree and began to lay about him with his sword at a swelling body of attackers. For some moments he held his own, slashing and throwing stones. His attackers, deterred by his spitfire bravery, drew off and began to shower him with ‘whatever anyone had in his hand or could lay hands upon.’ Three of his storm party jumped down to join him. One was shot in the face with an arrow. Shortly afterwards an arrow struck Alexander also… Alexander contrived to resist for awhile, 'but when a good deal of blood came forth, in a thick stream, as would be with the breath [he had received a “sucking wound”], he was overcome by dizziness and faintness, and fell there where he stood bending over his shield.
–The Mask of Command, p.63
I don’t know if that qualifies Alexander as a great swordsman or not, but the account fails to mention the wheelbarrow he must have carried his testicles around in.
Granted, gunpowder pretty much was the beginning of the end for the art of the sword, but isn’t the Renaissance a bit early for a cutoff point? Until reliable repeating firearms were common, people were still schooled in blades as a practical combat weapon. I’ve heard a particular hero of mine, Sir Richard F. Burton, referred to as one of the best in the 19th century, and in his life found the skill extremely useful on several occasions (outside the fencing piste)!
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Actually, the invention of small firearms brought in the lighter swords, starting with the rapier, and later the french small sword and the epee de combat (today’s sport epee is very similar to this last). This was a result of armor becoming obsolete. These are what are typically considered the renaissance weapons however, so if you want pre-renaissance you won’t be interested in any of these swordmen.
I’d have thought that it was the arrow that made the sword obsolete. Even the pike and lance are superior weapons. I’ve always thought that in real battle, a sword is a weapon of last resort. Other than that it’s purpose was/is largely ritualistic as either a symbol of rank or as a weapon for use in formal pre-arranged one-on-one combat.(Duels as opposed to battle.)
Here is an idea. Let Rory do his own frikkin homework for a change…
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I doubt it would be a last resort. They were probably expensive to make so there wouldn’t be a point to having them if they were less effective than cruder weapons.
I suppose it’s too late to throw in Ron Jeremy?