Not dying at all is better than any. It was the Jews who ran who were far more likely to live.
There were Jews who fought back, and I don’t think you or I are in position to judge their decisions as improper or “not viable”. I’m sure you agree with this if you think about it.
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That’s nonsense. Islam control is about the rather obvious idea that if Muslims are dangerous, they should be gotten rid of. The pro-Muslim side is much more inclined towards totalitarianism, many of them acting like proto-death squads with their speeches about Sharia solutions. If there’s a dictatorship in this country it won’t be about the Evil Christians imposing Muslim control, it’ll be some American version of the Mutawa kicking in the doors of suspected Christians, Jews, Americans and dog-owners and gunning down them and their families for Allah, Muhammad and JIHAD!!
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That was surprisingly easy. Two peas in a pod, you and your precisely-rotated Republican twin, each just salivating at the thought of the government cracking in the skulls of a huge portion of Americans. The worst thing is you are both so HONEST–you aren’t lying when you say you think that this group of millions of your fellow citizens is a cancer that needs to be eliminated, and all will be a utopia once we purify our society of Those People Who Are Not Like You. That’s what scary.
According to the holocaust museums I just saw, running wasn’t always an option. And isn’t there a single heroic bone in your body?
No. It’s “today 30 people with guns killed people, and tomorrow 30 more will and and the day after that and the day after that…”
Crying persecution is inconsistent with a manly image.
No, because the majority of the population *wanted *tyranny. No amount of guns will help you if that’s the case.
Besides, if German civilians were allowed guns, they would have used them to kill more Jews.
I browse RW forums from time to time and one thing I see repeated is the artificial sense of grandeur that RW gun enthusiasts heap upon themselves.
They unfocus their eyes, look up and imagine grimly sliding bullets into a magazine, as they prepare to face tyranny. When in reality, they are middle-aged and in terrible shape, and horribly trained. They’d be huffing and puffing as they run through the woods and would end up getting shot by a proper soldier.
An American with soft hands isn’t gonna fight off the US Military, the whole concept is nonsense.
People who hoard guns in their basement and praise David Koresh are not heroes. You’re kind of the opposite of heroes.
I didn’t kill anyone with my gun, and Joe Sitta-Pack at the mosque down the street didn’t fly any planes into any buildings, yet we are the ones who the generalizers want to punish. Your continued insistence that the 99.9999% of gun owners who have never committed violence, like the 99.9999% of Muslims not involved in terrorism, need to suffer as a collective punishment is the totalitarian impulse.
Considering that it was the ones who ran who tended to live, and it wasn’t the Jews who beat the Nazis but the Allied armies yes, I can safely say that fighting back wasn’t viable. If they couldn’t run and couldn’t hide that didn’t mean that fighting was a viable choice; it just meant that they didn’t have any.
No, it was just silly on your part. Guns = Islamic people? :rolleyes: You do realize that you are comparing say, the UK’s gun control laws to genocide?
I didn’t praise David Koresh. Where did you get that idea?
You do notice that we changed airline rules to deal with terrorism, right?
Wouldn’t that be the equivalent of gun control laws?
I know it’s hard for a gun-confiscator, but try to follow the actual argument instead of hopscotching around to the next thing when your point is countered. Guns do not equal Muslims, but the impulse to say “fuck the Constitution, fuck the Supreme Court, fuck what is actually true, fuck the principle of equal protection before the law” regarding one thing is a terrible, terrible impulse for all other things. If you shred every legal and cultural protection Americans have from genocide in order to get at guns, THAT is what makes genocide more likely, not the fact of who does or doesn’t physically possess the guns.
Then why did you bring that up?
Guns aren’t proof against tyranny.
:rolleyes: Regulating gun ownership or outright forbidding guns is neither punishment nor totalitarian. And the easy availability of guns does endanger people.
Except that’s just your fantasy version of gun control, not the reality. In fact, it’s you projecting the behavior and attitude of the pro-gun side onto their opponents; the pro-gun side has demonstrated a clear willingness to shred the Constitution and sacrifice “every legal and cultural protection” in the name of guns.
this. being armed just means you get a swat team taking you down, instead of a couple cops.
Perhaps the way you make it sound as if the Waco incident was a one-sided mistake on behalf of the government, perhaps?
Actually, from the article, the big things about firearms is that they favor the weaker and the defensive positions. Did you read it?
How did I do that?
You keep comparing our government to Hitler’s Germany. Do you really believe that we are even close to something like that happening?