HEY! Wasn’t the whole thing about GW Frog Abuse on Beavis and Butthead once, they said something about he was their role model and stuff…hmm…
Those Nutria rats look like Vancouver Island Marmots.– which are endangered.
- Nutria aren’t rats. They’re nutria.
- Shooting or otherwise humanely killing a problemmatic critter is not the same thing as torturing animals for fun.
- Adults who torture/torment humans often have tortured/tormented animals as children. Note this is correlational, not causal.
- The latest edition is DSM-IV-TR (Test Revision). It has up to date information on Alzheimer’s and Asperger’s, and updates on a number of associate lab findings, course of disorders, etc.
Some of you would not be happy if I invited you to a Toad Stomp…
Damn it, every time I see GWB I think of some obscure date rape or rave drug (not that there’s any difference).
This, and other similar activities such as mentioned above, are not “accidental” or “protective” endeavors. They require extra effort, and so must be done for some kind of (?) pleasure.
That’s what I need to have explained to me.
I think if GWB, or anyone else, gets pleasure from blowing up frogs there is indeed something amiss.
My attitude toward this whole thread can’t help but be slanted by the OP’s username.
Peace,
mangeorge
I have no constructive comments for this thread, I just wanted to point out the ‘The Frog Abusers’ would be a great name for a rock band.
(Ah yes, the joke that wouldn’t die …)
Well, they tried to get us to eat them to help control the population, but few people liked them. That must mean that they taste pretty nasty, because folks around here eat alligator, turtle, and pigeon, among other things.
Read the site I linked to:
“Nutrias are mammals in the rodent family (just check those teeth to verify that!) Specifically, they are of the order Rodentia, Family Myocastoridae: Myocastor coypus (Molina).”
No, they’re not technically rats, but they are rodents, so people down here call them rats. Big deal.
Maybe not, but the result is the same. If we find out that some of the nutria hunters are enjoying the experience, should we make them stop?
Right, so saying that GWB has a screw loose that may make him prone to violence because he killed frogs is the same as saying that I’m a potential serial killer because I wet the bed until I was 10.
Kids do stupid, sometimes cruel, stuff. The nature of that stuff varies. For example, I had a grand old time beating up my sisters when I was a kid. I grew out of it, though. Now, I’m 24 and haven’t thrown a punch at anyone since I was 13.
Really, how can you hold a 56-year-old man responsible for something he did when he was 8?
We grew up on a farm.
Killing a pest, or slaughtering for food, was completely different from inflicting damage for purposes of entertainment.
There was exploring or playing which was sometimes hard on the critter, but, for example, we had a cousin who cut the legs off salamanders and gathered them in a can. He was despised; wrong side of the line.
The quote didn’t specify that he was 8 years old. What is the source of that?
The article, not quoted (didn’t want to put too much of it here), sets the time of the alleged Frog Killing at 7 1/2 or so. The article also suggests that some of the behavior could be associated with angst or grief due to the death of his sister.
There is also the implied peer pressure aspect as well. If every kid you know in your world is picking off frogs with a BB gun, or fire cracker then…
Not justifying it, but IMHO this is nothing to get torqued over for the reasons mentioned above, kids, farm life, peer pressure, behavior correlations, forget about it.
Who knows, maybe he feels like Bongmaster.
-Sandwriter
Actually, a Toad Stomp (the way we did it) is a protective endeavor. The only toads that count are Cane Toads, which if you know anything about Australian fauna is one of the more damaging introduced animals. It’s a competition between two groups to see who could kill more in a set time so it was all about finding the toads and killing them quickly.