No, I disagree with and reject all of those points. That does not constitute ignoring them.
No, I was merely using it as an example. If I had the power, I’d erase every memory everyone in this thread has of Babylon 5, since people seem to be fixated on that to the exclusion of all else. Obliviate Babylonia!
I believe it is immoral based on the standards of morality that exist in the real world. Of course, then people will say, “You can’t use real world standards, it’s just a story and magic isn’t real.” That’s why I used another story with a similar situation.
I’m really not interested in continuing the debate, since I have no chance of winning and I should have known that going in. In fact, I’m deleting my own memory of ever posting to this thread. I feel it’s best.
I used real life examples and **Ricksummon **said they weren’t ‘remotely the same thing’, despite all being examples of identity alteration and memory loss.
He then said murder is never acceptable in fiction where good and evil are accepted concepts - in which case he should stay away from Peter Pan, The Saint, most cowboy books, spy and adventure series, thrillers and To Kill a Mockingbird - all of which promote murder as acceptable if done by the hero (or one of the lost boys). In the latter, the sheriff and town’s best lawyer also conspire to pervert the course of justice to make sure the murderer is never brought to trial. That Atticus Finch, evil bastard.
He said a great many things, some of which he contradicted within the same post.
Which is why I keep asking that if he can’t let it go, he takes it to a different thread. There’s obviously enough interest in the concept.
Yet you keep coming back and stating the same premise over and over again, ignoring or outright rejecting any counter examples without coming up with any new information.
You misrepresent what others have said - see above where you say your use of real life examples wouldn’t be respected, when it was you rejecting those examples. Or a couple of pages back where you were accusing everyone of making absolute statements of Good vs Evil, when you’re virtually the only person in this thread making absolute statements.
It’s not your opinion I’m annoyed with, it’s your method of arguing it.
If you’re letting it go, just do that. If you honestly think you have a point, please take it to another thread and argue your heart out.
I’m happy to carry on the thread. I liked the movie and I like the differing opinions people have had about the movie.
You have one specific point you’ve made - you have said repeatedly that you don’t believe you’ll get a fair hearing here, so why not start your own thread and leave this one to discussing the movie and people’s reactions to it?
Hang on, what about those of us who just want to discuss the movie generally, rather than endlessly (and humourlessly) debate the point over and over again?
No one except you has said they want the thread locked, so I’m not going to lock it. But this hijack is over. Start a new thread or let it go, and don’t post about it again in this thread.
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Thanks!
I think I missed a post, a page or two back (I’m at work, this is a drive-by post) where someone said the thing about the movies was that they showed up the lack of plot in the books.
Apart from Azkaban, which I think is well plotted, I kinda see his point and would like to hear more.
The books each had a distinct plot, which had to be secondary to the overarching plot and, to varying degress, suffered for that. The current movie suffered doubly so because it’s only half the book and the internal plot had to wrap up all loose ends from six previous books and set up for the series finale.
In the scene where Harry (as ministry official via polyjuice) is in Umbridge’s office he finds a stack of files, one of them for Dumbledore that I thought said Half-Blood. Was Dumbledore a half-blood in the books? I thought he was pure blood. (If so I suppose it’s from having two parents who are witches but one of them Muggle born.)
it was mentioned that mrs dumbledore may have been muggle born. his father was from a wizard family. if so then dumbledore, like tom riddle, harry potter, and snape was a half-blood.
I would think that you are remembering incorrectly.
The book never says anything about his parents’ ancestry, but his father was obviously a wizard (attacked some Muggle boys and went to prison for it); his mother is at least implied to be a wizard (I can’t remember if it is specifically said in the books that she was a wizard).
What does half-blood mean anyway? Is Harry Potter a half-blood, since his mother was the daughter of a Muggle? He’s less of a half-blood than Voldemort, Tom Riddle’s father was not even a wizard. It’s like South Africa during apartheid - at what point is someone not coloured any more?
Sorry, I went and saw the movie for the second time last night and I can verify the file Harry looks at in Umbridge’s office absolutely says Dumbledore is a half-blood. At the moment I thought it was odd since I didn’t remember that from the books.
