Ok, just finished it (didn’t have nearly as much time for reading as I would’ve liked in the past week). I’m doing something I hate in posting without reading the thread, but I gotta let this out before I tackle a 12-page thread:
As much as I’m generally able to keep fantasy and reality nicely seperated, if I ever meet Alan Rickman, I’m kicking him square in the nuts…the Dumbledore-murdering bastage. :mad:
Sorry-AD, not AS.
Typo from typing too fast…
And Sirius’ mother, and the other paintings in his house.
And the painting in the Prime Minister’s office.
And the paintings of the Hogwarts headmasters who also had paintings in the Ministry of Magic and St. Mungo’s.
I have not got spattergroit!
Sure, you don’t.
Thats what I think as well , Ron has to return to the school so he can become head boy, as the mirror predicted in sorcers stone i believe.
Declan
Was that really a prediction, though? I thought the Mirror of Erised just showed you what you wanted to happen, but there was no guarantee that it would.
Here’s a thought:
I’m now remembering the scene in book 4 where Harry told Dumbledore that Voldemort had taken some of his blood, and Dumbledore had a look of triumph in his eyes.
I wonder if Harry DID become a horcrux when Voldemort attempted to kill him, but by taking some of Harry’s blood, Voldemort had removed that soul-portion from Harry and placed it back within his own body? Dumbledore would have of course been pleased with such an outcome, because it would mean Voldemort could be killed without Harry being killed first.
The flip side of this is whether or not Dumbledore thinks Voldemort was aware of what he was doing. In book 6, he clearly seems to think that despite whatever Voldemort did
Here’s a thought:
I’m now remembering the scene in book 4 where Harry told Dumbledore that Voldemort had taken some of his blood, and Dumbledore had a look of triumph in his eyes.
I wonder if Harry DID become a horcrux when Voldemort attempted to kill him, but by taking some of Harry’s blood, Voldemort had removed that soul-portion from Harry and placed it back within his own body? Dumbledore would have of course been pleased with such an outcome, because it would mean Voldemort could be killed without Harry being killed first.
The flip side of this is whether or not Dumbledore thinks Voldemort was aware of what he was doing. In book 6, he clearly seems to think that despite whatever Voldemort did
Nuts, I don’t know HOW that just happened. To conclude my sentence:
The flip side of this is whether or not Dumbledore thinks Voldemort was aware of what he was doing. In book 6, he clearly seems to think that despite whatever Voldemort did in book 4, there is still a total of seven Horcruxes. So presumably, if Voldemort undid the Harry-crux, he must have made a substitute seventh after that time…in which case, this was all part of the Big V’s plan, so why should Dumbledore be so triumphant-feeling?
You said it yourself: because Voldemort could now be killed without sacrificing Harry.
The mirror does not predict anything. It only shows you what you most desire. Ron saw himself as headboy because what he desire most is recognition. Harry saw his parents because what he desires is family. If the mirror was a prediction, then that would mean all of Harry’s family would somehow be resurrected.
Yeah, but if Voldy did it on purpose, it must be because he has something better up his sleeve. I mean, much as we all love Harry, isn’t Dumbledore’s ultimate goal Voldemort’s defeat, not strictly Harry’s preservation? Or at least, shouldn’t it be?
I’m wondering if there is some innate quality Harry has which Voldemort acquired when he took Harry’s blood, but which is antithetical to Voldemort’s ultimate goals, thereby giving him an Achilles’ Heel Harry can use when he goes up against him. I would guess, if this was the case, that whatever this quality is, Voldemort wouldn’t be able to detect it within himself because, obviously, it would have something to do with love.
Just wanted to add to the possible Lily/Snape relationship…
I’m thinking that Lily wasn’t actually that good at potions. Most likely passable, much like Harry, but also like Harry, I’m guessing that she got help from Snape. Thus Snape and Lily formed some sort of relationship. I think that any love in it would have been one way, Snape to Lily, but I also think that they might have become sort of “secret” friends, probably only secret because of what James would say if he found out.
Why doesn’t Snape ever seem to see the similarities between his life and Hermione’s, I wonder.
I’m not sure they are that similar. If the notes in the potion book were of Snape’s own design, then it indicates (to me) that Snape himself isn’t all that interested in memorizing formulas from books when there is a more intuitive solution. His notes were all of the variety that showed a better or more efficaceous way to extract ingredients, to stir the potion, to produce results.
Hermione doesn’t really seem to have that intuitive grasp of any subject, because she basically memorizes her books and follows them letter for letter.
The two possibilities as I see them were that Lily was a genius with potions and helped out Snape, who wrote down her instructions; or that Snape invented those solutions and helped Lily.
I would buy this far, far sooner than I would believe the “Snape loves Lily” plotline that has been predicted here and elsewhere. I posted this in one of the other HP threads, but I’d be really disappointed if JKR took the “he turned to the light side for love!” route. It just seems really cheesy and tacked-on to me. I think Snape needs a better reason than unrequited love to be on Dumbledore’s side, when he was once a Death-Eater.